New SERO Oct 1st - Page 45

8rotor8 · #**441** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 12:42 PM

Exactly, it doesn't say you CAN'T or CAN, so why are you still complaining? My car didn't come with a T&C that stated I CAN'T go drifting... But it will cost me more on tires and gas, should I go complain and rant off like a 4 year old?

They don't need a term that states that, because there is a term that states they can change the plans at will, it's what you signed and all of us signed. And their rules are reasonable to them to control what devices on are THEIR plans, their plans that they can change without your say so. Yes you did state a hardware clause, but you didn't read it all did you? It states that warranty isn't covered by sprint, but is left to the manufacture.

**Mojary** · #**442** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nerys

"nerys...why can't you accept the fact that there are SERO users like us that thinks this new plan offer by Sprint works for us? "

which is the core problem. Because your ok with it me and others get STUCK with it. Precisely when will it stop being ok with you? when they compel another $10 or $20 2 Years from now? when your account is $70 5 years from now?

that's the problem with you. you did not seem to understand what i posted, or for that matter, make me believe that you read my whole post (but do correct me if im wrong). because i clearly stated why it is ok with me. but for the sake of argument....it's ok with me because IT IS BENEFICIAL for me $$$wise still. isn't this one of your main argument from the get go?...that you'll be spending thousands of dollars more in the span of 10 years? so i gave you a perfect example of why it would be ok with me (and others). and 5, 6, 7 years from now....im pretty sure my oldest son will have a part-time job in the mall or somewhere, where he can start paying for the $70/month plan. and if he does not like it, he can find himself something better.

and im pretty sure Sprint will be doing the same thing in the future they are doing now. which is..."hey, we got a new plan OPTION for your current plan. it's so and so more...but we're gonna give you these such and such in return." you make it sound like Sprint is not giving customers anything in return at all for the $10.

When does it become NOT ok with you?

a cell phone is a luxury in life. i don't have to let it get to that point by staying with what i currently have. hell, i had the free incoming plan for a number of years and if i didn't want to get the latest and greatest phone at that time, i could've stayed with that plan. it was a $30/month increase for me coming out of that plan. but guess what?...i was ok with upping my plan because when i went to the ED plan, it included all the things that i wanted but had to pay separately for each under my old plan. and getting those add-ons that is alerady included in the ED plan added separately under my old free incoming plan....we're not talking chump change there. i would've spent way more than $70/month. so i got smart and saved myself $10-$20 by getting the plan that already had all of those add-ons. and the clincher....was the anytime any mobile. 99% of the numbers i call were cell phones. so again...just because you have that type of mindset....does not mean that everyone will agree with it. because it might not work for you....but it works great for others.

so again...as long as i see some benefit in it for me, i don't mind paying extra.

obamaftw08 · #**443** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brownhornet

It's easy for carriers like Sprint, tmobile, Virgin and Metro to price less when they cover less real estate. Metro is $40 unlimited here in GA but when you leave the Atlanta Metropolitan area the service goes from ok to being a joke. Sprint here is pretty good.. but there are spots that if it werent for being able to roam on Verizon you would have no coverage.

I know you just didn't lump sprint and tmobile together as far as coverage real estate goes right?! amazing what people say these days.

nerys · #**444** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:04 PM

who the hell is alex jones and what does he have to do with this?

**Mojary** · #**445** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nerys

who the hell is alex jones and what does he have to do with this?

would you believe me if i said he owned Sprint? clicky the linky in his post.

beserker15 · #**446** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nerys

"nerys...why can't you accept the fact that there are SERO users like us that thinks this new plan offer by Sprint works for us? "

which is the core problem. Because your ok with it me and others get STUCK with it. Precisely when will it stop being ok with you? when they compel another $10 or $20 2 Years from now? when your account is $70 5 years from now?

When does it become NOT ok with you?

Bro, the point is they aren't actually compelling me. If our TP2 is the final smartphone that is allowed without an upgraded plan, that's ok. If I can't find a good job in 5 years to afford a price upgrade, then I'll still be using "dumbphones" with SERO and I'll still be paying $30. While smartphones are getting upgraded fast, dumbphones aren't doing so bad either. I'm not using an LG Rumor Touch or the Samsung Seek because my TP2 is better. In 5 years, I'm quite sure a dumbphone will surpass the TP2 in speed and design. As I said, Sprint isn't declining in the service and quality I get from them...they're just making it harder for me to UPGRADE the quality.

nerys · #**447** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:14 PM

"Yes you did state a hardware clause, but you didn't read it all did you? It states that warranty isn't covered by sprint, but is left to the manufacture."

is that not PRECISELY what I just said?

nerys · #**448** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:15 PM

thats called compelling you beserker15 - please go look up the word

Ciege · #**449** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nerys

why do you guys not get this. there was NO legal and not legal sero phones. you could use ANY TECH COMPATIBLE phone you wanted to.

these "restricted" phones that are full tech compatible IS THE ISSUE.

hell sprint even SAYS it right in their terms. Sprint does not make the hardware nor support it thats up to the manufacturer. SO why should sprint decide what your plan can use JUST because its "cool" if its otherwise tech compatible with your plan?

Sorry, you can't keep getting away with this one either... You could NOT use any tech compatible phones with you plan that you wanted to (then or now).
Ever try to activate a non Sprint branded CDMA phone on the Sprint network? No soup for you! It's tech compatible but has a different name on the cover. Its made by the same hardware manufacturer, has the same specs, cost (more or less) the same to purchase outright but you will not be able to activate it on Sprint. Nuff said.

Aleki · #**450** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nerys

well when did the terms say I COULD NOT use any phone mr. sprint since 2000. I say there was no such rule UNTIL the instinct.

My contention is that sprint should NOT be permitted to make such rules. This is not sprints sand box contrary to what people thing. We have laws and we decide what those rules are.

IE sprints rules need to reasonable. My contention is that this is NOT reasonable.

normally market forces will enforce reasonable limits on a company. but market forces DO NOT APPLY normally in this context because they are using OUR AIRWAVES and we have unwillingly (thanks FCC) granted them an effective oligarchy via selling bandwidth and the intrinsic limits of that bandwidth (frequency bands)

thats all.

With all due respect, I still dont see why you are making such a big deal of this. They arent forcing you to spend the extra $10/mnth, its an optional upgrade which allows you to move into better phones. Not only does it unlock you from last years phones, but you also gain any mobile anytime, and telenav.
They are using our airwaves? True, but why dont you try to manufacture a phone that uses your independent band, and power up your own cell site. Not only will you have a very limited service range, but you'll be paying alot more than $30 a month in running costs alone, I guarantee it!

Anyone can argue that plans are cheaper overseas, etc.. but that is not how economy works. Shoot, atleast we dont live in Singapore, where cars costs them twice as much to purchase and own(no, my car is not domestic, and it retails $40K. $80K is not a happy number for me..)

If you want to make a statement, then dont upgrade, and keep your $30/mnth plan. Heck, if you really want to stick it to them, then dont use their service. Perhaps that will force them to lower their costs in the long run.

For the record: AMAT makes owning the 1250 plan silly, and because of their new offering, my sister and her boyfriend have downgraded to the 500min plan, essentially saving them $10/mnth per line once they upgrade to the SERO Plus

PS: if you own the $50/mnth plan and want to downgrade to the SERO $30, call 888-876-8381. They'll fix you up