Who plans to go HD2?

[Dragon2]

Simple crap like when ya download a zip file on android it automatically asks to unzip when its finished. WHERE AS ON THE tp2 ya had to go find the file click here. There. Here Just to get there, no click it, now make a destination etc. To many steps.. Android just download, when done it'll ask to unzip, hit yes and its done in the unzip folder.. just fast... Simple things, YouTube it asks to save or play.. nice option... its hard to explain, its just simpler and the OS helps you along .....

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

i think he is just in love with his newest toy.
everything he said he can do in the contacts i can too, so i don't see the point. call, text, email, even get directions to their house is at the touch of a button.
how is this better on android?
and skyfire plays youtube much better than any mobile app i have tried.

Some of you people are delusional. Everything about the phone is better from top to bottom. There is no sitting and waiting on pages to load with the checkerboxes when you browse the web, apps open faster... to sum it up everything tp2 does droid does it faster and more efficiently. That help you out?

[p-slim]

I'm glad you guys are here it was starting to make my head hurt arguing. Salty you gave only tried a g1. The g1 runs android 1.6, android 2.1 is much better. The fact that you keep arguing for 6.5 is beyond me, it's not even a fair comparison. Its people like sawlty the reason windows fell so far. They keep swearing winmo 6 is OK when its not even average. Sure you can do something's just as simple but not the majority. Sawlty all I'm saying is I was in your boat and if you buy a nexus you will change your mind as well.

here's the best example for what the majority of the people are doing in this rooom. if we had to go from point a to point b, i jump into my porche cayenne and follow my navigation and ride there comfortably and end up at point b asap. then you winmo users jump into your mazda moreno with no navigation, no leather, no sun roof, and no rims but you still end up at point b a little later because with no navigation you took an extra couple of turns. We both got to our destinations we just didn't take the same route or transportation. Until winmo 7 comes out its that simple.

On a side note dragon, you figured out how to get the update already, right? I couldnt wait and now my nexus one is flawless. here is the way how.

http://www.androidcentral.com/how-ma...your-nexus-one

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

funny, i've had dsl and cable modem and never seen 37 down advertised, but if you can get that, great for you.
please show me a phone that can handle 21 down and i'll be impressed. even wmexperts podcast guys don't think phones will be able to handle more than 10 because of hardware limitations.
oh, and for proof of my 4g stick speed, at work in a concrete hospital that both verizon and at&t lose signal:

so here is a screen shot of a real home internet connection. Actually if you go to the comcast website and put in a bay area address you will actually see up to 50mbps advertised. So now youre saying phones can't do 21 mbps, if thats the case who cares how fast wimax and lte can go, so obviously there is a reason people want 21mbps on the download.

real home internet connection speed:

[Young_breedent]

To all you andriod lovers i'll give it to you andriod is defintely very nice and if windows drops the ball with windows phone 7 i will definitely get myself an android device but i will almost certainly NEVER buy an iPhone. But now lets state some facts and be honest here. Windows mobile 6.1 which most of our tp2's shipped with was an awesome os from a functionality stand point and the leader in terms of a business device but lacked the pretty visual aspects and finger friendliness of the newer OS's. But with that said i can pretty much do anything with wm 6.1 that you can with andriod 2.1 or the iPhone.

Now some will say how much faster they can do certian tasks and how much prettier it looks. Well 2.1 was JUST released and the hardware it was released on is FAR superior to what we have for our tp2's. These newer devices are actually the next generation of both hardware and software. So for the tp2 to still be in that arguement says enough for it's self. Now 6.1 was released how long ago. I know at least 2 maybe 3 years ago maybe even longer. And still has funtions that neither the iphone or andriod offers. Thats a big plus for WM in my opinion.

Now we have WM 6.5 which was just released last year. Let's be honest this was a very small upgrade to an already old OS. They just added finger freindliness, some more pleasing visual elements, and some newer ways to manage memory. Essentially it's the same OS as WM 6.1. So even to compare WM 6.5 to andriod 2.1 or the iPhone wouldn't completly be fair because as far as funtionality and what the OS does it's the same as WM 6, 6.1 and all the other previous WM versions that we already stated was last generation in terms of hardware and software.

Now why is WM taking there time. Well maybe because they aren't as far behind as you think. Lets take the HD2 which would be the best WM device in terms of specs , and compare it to the iPhone 3GS and Andriod 2.1. The HD2 kills the 3GS in my opinion in speed, pretty visuals (Sense 2.5) and funtionality. And the HD2 compared to the Nexus One or the Droid is a very close comparsion which i still would give the top spot to the HD2 because of business funtionalities. And the HD2 managed to do this with an OLD OS with just updated hardware mind you. The HD2 showed you what WM 6.1 would of been able to accomplish with proper hardware. And WM might not have as bad of a rep if proper hardware would of been mandatory as it is with WM 7.

Microsoft has yet to released it's next gen OS which is WM7, yet there old OS still can battle with the next gen devices. When WM 7 is released i honestly think i will be awesome and be the premier OS that it once was. They got it so right the first time that people forget how good these devices really are. It's crazy that my 528mhz processer device with an OS from 3 years ago can compete with your 1ghz process with an OS that was just released a few months ago. So imagine what WM7 with a 1.5ghz processor will be able to accomplish. I am happy that you guys are satified with your devices as me and all of the other TP2 owners are, but to say that they are betterI disagree. But only time will tell and i can't wait for Mobile World Congress when Microsoft wows the mobile industry with it's revolutionary OS.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

you are the one quoting sony ericsson, not me. they are in trouble in the smartphone arena.
and some of us already have 4g, and great signal with sprint. so i'm not changing carriers to get a phone. never have, never will.
everyone should go with who has the best coverage in their area.
it's been pretty obvious you are disappointed with the sprint coverage where you are. i would fully expect you to jump ship.

Uh, I quoted Sonny Ericsson for a couple of reasons...
#1: They are a prominent phone manufacturer. If they are saying they don't think anyone will support the technology, they probably know what they're talking about.

#2: Sony Ericsson is actually running Sprint's network. So if they aren't competent enough to be trusted, then it's an even worse scenario for Sprint.

As for your statement about going with who has the best coverage, I have a few points on that as well...

#1: It doesn't matter who has the best coverage if you can't get even 1 single phone for the service. Why would I (or anyone else) care how good Sprint's coverage is if they don't have even 1 single phone?

#2: Some people already have 4G, yes, but they still don't have a phone to use with it, lol. And anyway, 4G is only launched in 10 cities. So it's not like the majority, or even a lot for that matter, have 4G. And with only 5 cities getting it in 2010, there is no reason for most of the nation to be excited about Sprint's 4G. And that is even if there was a phone that worked on it.
Again:
http://jkontherun.com/2009/03/25/spr...for-2009-2010/

10 cities right now, 5 more in 2010. No phones. That does not even come close to T-mobile having 21 meg HSPA+ network wide by mid 2010.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by p-slim

I'm glad you guys are here it was starting to make my head hurt arguing. Salty you gave only tried a g1. The g1 runs android 1.6, android 2.1 is much better. The fact that you keep arguing for 6.5 is beyond me, it's not even a fair comparison. Its people like sawlty the reason windows fell so far. They keep swearing winmo 6 is OK when its not even average. Sure you can do something's just as simple but not the majority. Sawlty all I'm saying is I was in your boat and if you buy a nexus you will change your mind as well.

here's the best example for what the majority of the people are doing in this rooom. if we had to go from point a to point b, i jump into my porche cayenne and follow my navigation and ride there comfortably and end up at point b asap. then you winmo users jump into your mazda moreno with no navigation, no leather, no sun roof, and no rims but you still end up at point b a little later because with no navigation you took an extra couple of turns. We both got to our destinations we just didn't take the same route or transportation. Until winmo 7 comes out its that simple.

On a side note dragon, you figured out how to get the update already, right? I couldnt wait and now my nexus one is flawless. here is the way how.

http://www.androidcentral.com/how-ma...your-nexus-one

Uh, man you are wrong, lol. My friends are running Android 2.1 on their G1s. Yes, the G1 shipped with the original Andr4oid a couple years ago, but it was updated to 2.1 a while back. I probably played with Android 2.1 before you did if you are only seeing it for the first time on your Nexus One, lol.

And, again, my Touch Pro 2 running Mobile Shell blows their G1's out of the water. I can promise you either one of them would trade me in a heartbeat if my phone worked on T-Mobile or they were with Sprint.

You seem to be missing the fact that your new phone has literally twice the processor and twice the RAM of your Touch Pro 2. Of course it is going to be faster, lol. And the OS has little to do with that. Put your Touch Pro 2 up against a G1 (running Android 2.1) and see which one is faster.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Uh, man you are wrong, lol. My friends are running Android 2.1 on their G1s. Yes, the G1 shipped with the original Andr4oid a couple years ago, but it was updated to 2.1 a while back. I probably played with Android 2.1 before you did if you are only seeing it for the first time on your Nexus One, lol.

And, again, my Touch Pro 2 running Mobile Shell blows their G1's out of the water. I can promise you either one of them would trade me in a heartbeat if my phone worked on T-Mobile or they were with Sprint.

You seem to be missing the fact that your new phone has literally twice the processor and twice the RAM of your Touch Pro 2. Of course it is going to be faster, lol. And the OS has little to do with that. Put your Touch Pro 2 up against a G1 (running Android 2.1) and see which one is faster.

why do you keep comparing it to the 1st ever android. why not the droid or the ervius. ok man keep living in your box, thats all i'm going to say. winmo 7 is coming for a reason.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

so salty, before android, when you tweaked your phone, what where you trying to make it run like?
lol

I have been running SPB Mobile Shell since WM5 on the PPC-6700. I have installed it on all of my devices since back then. So all of the tweaks I do and have done, end up with a similar end result. And I am pretty sure Google modeled the Android interface after SPB Mobile Shell.

All of his complaints seem to be with the WinMo interface, which is no surprise. The interface has been the biggest complaint about WinMo for some time now. But SPB Mobile Shell IS that interface that everyone wants WinMo to be like. You put it on a next gen device and there is no complaint.

All of this speed crap is a bunch of garbage. Of course it's going to be slower when it only has half the processor and half the RAM.

On the plus side- at least you can install apps to the storage card on WinMo...

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by p-slim

why do you keep comparing it to the 1st ever android. why not the droid or the ervius. ok man keep living in your box, thats all i'm going to say. winmo 7 is coming for a reason.

Okay man, now I am going to ask you the same thing I asked brownhornet:
Are you dense or are you just ignoring my post? lol

My friends are running Android 2.1 (like most everyone else with a G1 is). Yes, it shipped with the first Android, but it now runs Android 2.1 just like your Nexus One.

And I am comparing it to that one to demonstrate the exact same thing you are- older hardware runs slower than faster hardware. You are acting like the OS is the only reason why your Nexus One is faster than your Touch Pro 2. So I am pointing out that the same Touch Pro 2, running that same OS, is a lot faster than a G1 running Android 2.1.

Yes, WinMo 7 is coming. That doesn't mean WinMo 6.5 is horrible.