Windows Phone 7... Doomed?

[Noir]

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

This is no toy --- >>> Asus: "This Is the Most Powerful Tablet in the World"


Asus just pulled out their Core i5-powered, Windows 7-running Eee Pad Slate tablet, calling it "the most powerful tablet in the world." Probably so! They proved their point by simultaneously playing 1080p video and running photo editing software.
The video seems to be running without any problems, and the handwriting recognition Asus is showing off is pretty impressive. So far so good! And it certainly looks good on paper: 12.1" multitouch IPS display; 64GB SSD with 4GB memory; 10.1 Flash capable, etc. It is certainly big and bad, but what remains to be seen is how useful it'll be as a tablet.


Hands-on with the ASUS EP121 Slate PC

uhm asus...er...uhm...
hp 2740p convertible is far more powerful with 8gb max ram, 4 point capacitive touch screen i7 2.6 gig processor option of ssd (256 gig) or 500 gig standard hd...
the only problem is screen resolution, but otherwise it is still the cream of the crop and it was released LAST year
sadly its 3k =(
edit it runs android
oh yes sadly its a toy...if I'm buying a tablet it will stand as my main pc and if I want to load linux, macosx I will load it...sorry android =( it's not you it's my tastes (
I love you on my brother's hd2 with miui...don't look at me that way just walk away don't make this any more painful!!!

[gTen]

Originally Posted by Noir

Az those are toys not the tablet for me =/
gten actually it would be great maybe ask courtney and see if you can do a writeup on your experience there that would bring ppcgeeks a lot more unique visitors too!

I can writeup even without asking..all mods have access to write on the news page..If there is anything you want me to specifically check out tell me..I can't make any guarantees though since as I said I don't know how much time I will have and a lot of it may be wasted getting lost or being distracted by shiny gadgets..

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

This is no toy --- >>> Asus: "This Is the Most Powerful Tablet in the World"


Asus just pulled out their Core i5-powered, Windows 7-running Eee Pad Slate tablet, calling it "the most powerful tablet in the world." Probably so! They proved their point by simultaneously playing 1080p video and running photo editing software.
The video seems to be running without any problems, and the handwriting recognition Asus is showing off is pretty impressive. So far so good! And it certainly looks good on paper: 12.1" multitouch IPS display; 64GB SSD with 4GB memory; 10.1 Flash capable, etc. It is certainly big and bad, but what remains to be seen is how useful it'll be as a tablet.


Hands-on with the ASUS EP121 Slate PC

Playing 1080p and photo editing software at once isn't that impressive...I mean even a Hummingbird CPU can play back 1080p..I don't know if it can do photo editing at same time though but you get the point...

Originally Posted by Noir

uhm asus...er...uhm...
hp 2740p convertible is far more powerful with 8gb max ram, 4 point capacitive touch screen i7 2.6 gig processor option of ssd (256 gig) or 500 gig standard hd...
the only problem is screen resolution, but otherwise it is still the cream of the crop and it was released LAST year
sadly its 3k =(

so its called the 2740p and has low resolution screen? the irony >.> lol..
Though asus is not lying..just what your showing is a convertible..

I will tell you this though..I bought my friend an HP convertible and they liked it, so I shortly bought myself one..1 month after the 1 year warranty ran out their convertible fried...same for me, 2 month later after my 1 year warranty ran out my convertible fried...so as you can guess I am not to thrilled with HP after that :/

[nrfitchett4]

Originally Posted by sp4rtan5

Oh look! Bike bandit angry he got ripped off with yet another crippled htc phone. Sorry bike bandit, us sgs owners donr gotta tweak anything to makw it work. Go ro xda a try theur new alpha 3d drivers for htc phones, good luck.

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and so sad for you to be stuck with your non hardware accelerated gpu, no wonder you need higher specs and yet still get choppy scrolling...

Originally Posted by gTen

It wasn't about Android..it was about how WP7 stacks up to Android AND iphone and other platforms that may come out..since I had an Epic I guess people took the liberty to attack Android..personally as I said I owe my loyalty to no manufacturer and to no OS.. only who ever gives me the ebst package at the time..my choice of the Epic is solely based on that...

I personally think M$ choice of going in with a 1st gen snapdragon was a bad one..and you know that yourself cause I remember back in the day on the WP7 gang thread the posts were about 1.2ghz phones, 2ghz phones, dual cores and etc..and instead we got that..I mean admit it..even you didn't expect that..and what I am saying is with having the old snapdragon as the minimum it will bring the platform down for at least a year..maybe even 2...its not saying that its 100% doomed..but this is one brick off the bottom..



The processor and carriers still having control..

How many phones are running hummingbird processors that don't have samsung on the back??? I haven't seen one.
MS chose to take an established processor and hardware accelerate it. Can't complain about that. If there are no new phones with updated processors by next xmas, then you can come back and say I told you so, but until then...

Originally Posted by sp4rtan5

Thats why u getting whay u getting dumb llama! U get whay you pay for! Under 200$? No cutting edge top of the line cpu fo u!


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and no hardware acceleration for you!!!

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

The spartian is like a retarded pet... Let him be... He's no bother.

I've been trying to find something cool coming out of CES in the form of a WP7 device... Nothing yet. The day is young though. It looks as though tablets are the stars of the show. Yet... I see nothing priced for the common mortal. Or anythign from Sprint! WTF? EVO Shift is what we get from Sprint?
Verizon has a butload of Android phones. Some with some very nice looking design lines and beeffy hardware to match.
p.

That new Asus tablet looks promising, but 1100.00??? Don't think the wife will let me.
Now that new mitisubishi 92in dlp??? It's on my santa list already...

Originally Posted by Noir

not till thurs for wp7 news and tablet news
actually my eyes are still set on the hp 2740p convertible tablet not these flipping toys everyone goes gaga for.
Sprint...you know I don't think they were existent at this CES for much...not even the evo was announced then actually...
but to tide you over next month update does bring cdma support, some major bug fixes, and a few other things. Sadly as gTen corrected me, it is carrier based...which means not good...either that or we need some f/w leaks and now

guess this means that sprint and verizon still have another month before their wp7 headsets are coming out...

Originally Posted by gTen

I am not saying better hardware is not coming..but I do think M$ overlooked setting a minimum on the GPU..on a locked down platform like WP7 where M$ tries to avoid "fragmentation" as they call it..it will really bog down the platform for at least a year..I am fully aware that its 1.0 and etc..and Android and iphone both started somewhere..but this day and age its a lot less forgiving...even Apple as ironic as it is released better hardware then all Android phones...up until the Galaxy S...



I may actually end up going to CES..I'm in town around that time so if I finish what I need to I may attend one of the days

you really think that the galaxy s phones have better hardware than the iphone 4??? Why?

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

This is no toy --- >>> Asus: "This Is the Most Powerful Tablet in the World"


Asus just pulled out their Core i5-powered, Windows 7-running Eee Pad Slate tablet, calling it "the most powerful tablet in the world." Probably so! They proved their point by simultaneously playing 1080p video and running photo editing software.
The video seems to be running without any problems, and the handwriting recognition Asus is showing off is pretty impressive. So far so good! And it certainly looks good on paper: 12.1" multitouch IPS display; 64GB SSD with 4GB memory; 10.1 Flash capable, etc. It is certainly big and bad, but what remains to be seen is how useful it'll be as a tablet.


Hands-on with the ASUS EP121 Slate PC

Me wants, but is to expensive..

Originally Posted by gTen

I can writeup even without asking..all mods have access to write on the news page..If there is anything you want me to specifically check out tell me..I can't make any guarantees though since as I said I don't know how much time I will have and a lot of it may be wasted getting lost or being distracted by shiny gadgets..



Playing 1080p and photo editing software at once isn't that impressive...I mean even a Hummingbird CPU can play back 1080p..I don't know if it can do photo editing at same time though but you get the point...




so its called the 2740p and has low resolution screen? the irony >.> lol..
Though asus is not lying..just what your showing is a convertible..

I will tell you this though..I bought my friend an HP convertible and they liked it, so I shortly bought myself one..1 month after the 1 year warranty ran out their convertible fried...same for me, 2 month later after my 1 year warranty ran out my convertible fried...so as you can guess I am not to thrilled with HP after that :/

then why don't the galaxy s phones have 1080p recording like the new lg?

[Dr.8820]

i would tell ex to use gps on his epic to find a mental hospital....wait...the great hummingbird can't get a correct gps fix...

[sp4rtan5]

Originally Posted by Dr.8820

Wirelessly posted (PPCGEEKS Fire Dept.: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Windows Phone 6.5))

keeping on topic, i'm going to watch an episode of familt guy now via netflix....not bragging, just pointing out that wp7 is the only that has it so it can't be a doomed os....i know a whole bunch of fandroids that would love that app .

Its callef flash. Android was born with it. Try again bike bandit.

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[sp4rtan5]

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

This is no toy --- >>> Asus: "This Is the Most Powerful Tablet in the World"


Asus just pulled out their Core i5-powered, Windows 7-running Eee Pad Slate tablet, calling it "the most powerful tablet in the world." Probably so! They proved their point by simultaneously playing 1080p video and running photo editing software.
The video seems to be running without any problems, and the handwriting recognition Asus is showing off is pretty impressive. So far so good! And it certainly looks good on paper: 12.1" multitouch IPS display; 64GB SSD with 4GB memory; 10.1 Flash capable, etc. It is certainly big and bad, but what remains to be seen is how useful it'll be as a tablet.


http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b...1slate-pc.aspx

Ya, remember when snap dragon was callef the most powerfull cpu to date? Nuff said.


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[sp4rtan5]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

and so sad for you to be stuck with your non hardware accelerated gpu, no wonder you need higher specs and yet still get choppy scrolling...



How many phones are running hummingbird processors that don't have samsung on the back??? I haven't seen one.
MS chose to take an established processor and hardware accelerate it. Can't complain about that. If there are no new phones with updated processors by next xmas, then you can come back and say I told you so, but until then...



and no hardware acceleration for you!!!



That new Asus tablet looks promising, but 1100.00??? Don't think the wife will let me.
Now that new mitisubishi 92in dlp??? It's on my santa list already...



guess this means that sprint and verizon still have another month before their wp7 headsets are coming out...



you really think that the galaxy s phones have better hardware than the iphone 4??? Why?




Me wants, but is to expensive..



then why don't the galaxy s phones have 1080p recording like the new lg?

Holy moly! Captain delusional! Put a zip log bag on ur htc to make it go faster. Lol. Seriously, on a evo thread some poor sap suggested to do that to get it to boot. Omgwtfbbq thxcumgain!



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[gTen]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

and so sad for you to be stuck with your non hardware accelerated gpu, no wonder you need higher specs and yet still get choppy scrolling...

Umm..Android has hardware acceleration..Apps can enable it if they choose to..Firefox 4 and Opera are an example of apps that use hardware acceleration

How many phones are running hummingbird processors that don't have samsung on the back??? I haven't seen one.

Meizu M9? iphone 4(kinda)

MS chose to take an established processor and hardware accelerate it. Can't complain about that. If there are no new phones with updated processors by next xmas, then you can come back and say I told you so, but until then...

Samsung is an established processor company, they made processors for pretty much all the iphones and many other phones...

As for updating the hardware by next christmas..you COMPLETELY missed the point..I am saying the minimum is going to hold the platform back because it is too low...(at least in gaming)

and no hardware acceleration for you!!!

Hardware acceleration exists on Android..sigh...

Now that new mitisubishi 92in dlp??? It's on my santa list already...

Is DLP even worth getting?

you really think that the galaxy s phones have better hardware than the iphone 4??? Why?

Galaxy S = 1ghz Hummingbird + SGX540
iPhone4 = 850mhz A4(cousin to the Hummingbird) + SGX535

See any reason?

then why don't the galaxy s phones have 1080p recording like the new lg?

Actually, the Hummingbird is capable of recording and playing 1080p..and it should be possible...BUT the default software/drivers installed are configured for 720p for both playing back and recording..1080p was already unlocked on the iphone I hear..just takes someone to unlock it for us :/

Originally Posted by Dr.8820

i would tell ex to use gps on his epic to find a mental hospital....wait...the great hummingbird can't get a correct gps fix...

Dr.8820..your not going to like this but..the Hummingbird unlike the snapdragon does not HAVE a GPS built in..Snapdragons are a multichip in 1..Hummingbird is a CPU and jsut that..our GPS is provided by..

*drum roll*

Qualcomm QSC6085 - yeah Qualcomm :/

[darren.wlsn1]

omg i just cringe everytime i come to this thread, its not the phone talk its you guys insulting each others choices. play nice and if you love wp then thats the device for you and if you love android then thats for you.

carry on....

[sp4rtan5]

Originally Posted by gTen

Umm..Android has hardware acceleration..Apps can enable it if they choose to..Firefox 4 and Opera are an example of apps that use hardware acceleration



Meizu M9? iphone 4(kinda)



Samsung is an established processor company, they made processors for pretty much all the iphones and many other phones...

As for updating the hardware by next christmas..you COMPLETELY missed the point..I am saying the minimum is going to hold the platform back because it is too low...(at least in gaming)



Hardware acceleration exists on Android..sigh...




Is DLP even worth getting?



Galaxy S = 1ghz Hummingbird + SGX540
iPhone4 = 850mhz A4(cousin to the Hummingbird) + SGX535

See any reason?



Actually, the Hummingbird is capable of recording and playing 1080p..and it should be possible...BUT the default software/drivers installed are configured for 720p for both playing back and recording..1080p was already unlocked on the iphone I hear..just takes someone to unlock it for us :/



Dr.8820..your not going to like this but..the Hummingbird unlike the snapdragon does not HAVE a GPS built in..Snapdragons are a multichip in 1..Hummingbird is a CPU and jsut that..our GPS is provided by..

*drum roll*

Qualcomm QSC6085 - yeah Qualcomm :/

Enough! You killing me! U aint giving me no reason to debate u! What the f###? Did someone rob yoy from tje koolaid? I am deeply concerned. Seriosly.


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