Who plans to go HD2?

[WisdomWolfX]

Can we please get back on topic before the mods have to come in and break up the fight?

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by solarflarex

T-mobiles prices are comparible to sprint... hahahaha.. Maybe for a single plan but no carrier comes close for the family everything plans with unlimited any mobile to mobile calling....

The features you get almost double the cost of the plan on any other carrier.
real / not capped unlimited data
unlimited text messaging
unlimited music/sprint tv
unlimited sprint nav (tom tom etc holds nothing to live/online updated maps with ratings)
nights and weekends start earlier w/o additional fees although it doesn't matter much since the unlimited any mobile2mobile. (not just in network).. who uses many minutes calling normal phones anyway? My shared plan minutes usage has dropped to almost nothing...
what about that coverage? at&t plus tmobile do not compare... There is alot of white space on that US map for both.

etc etc.. and sprint is about to release a 4g phone.. at&t and t-mobile can suck it.

You better check the numbers on that. T-Mobile's plus plans are cheaper than Sprint's across the board, and they don't even require a contract. Sprint's referral plan is cheaper (which is what I have and why I am with Sprint right now) but T-Mobile's phones are cheaper (and they will also let you break them up into up to 20 equal payments if you want), and their plus plans are cheaper. And, again, they don't have a sontract on their plus plans- you just pay off whatever balance you have left on your phone purchase (if you didn't pay for the whole purchase price outright) when you leave.

[Eschelon]

Getting back to the original topic, my IT guy here at work has been trying to talk me into getting the HD2, but after typing on the Omnia's cramped touchscreen for a whole year, it'll be a while before I ever give up my keyboard again.

Sure the HD2 has a larger screen which will make the typing a little easier, but a touchscreen will never feel the same as pushing the actual tactile keys of a true keyboard.

Plus, have you seen the size of the HD2? Any bigger and they may as well call the thing a tablet instead of a phone


EDIT: Forgot to add, I'm also a little worried about a measly 1230 mAh battery being able to power a snapdragon processor and a 4.3-inch screen for long periods of time... I understand that power management may be better, but still. Keep in mind, the TP2 battery is 1500 mAh and there are threads in the forum almost weekly about how unsatisfactory the battery life is

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Uh, wrong. AT&T was the #1 carrier before the iPhone. They are now the #2. There is no way anyone can say the iphone is the only reason they are bigger than Sprint. They were bigger than Sprint long before anyone ever heard of an iPhone. If anything, the iPhone is hurting AT&T because of all the users taking up data bandwidth.

And don't even get me started on Windows Mobile phones. AT&T's Touch Pro 2 has WM 6.5, and they also have that Windows Mobile phone that has a projector built in. Do you have anything to back up your claim that Sprint has more Windows Mobile users?

Now, to address your claims...

1: The conference calling is not the same thing as using simultaneous voice and data. It's a conference call. Totally different.

2: Simultaneous voice and data is not the same as a conference call.

3: No, you don't have true cell tower location with google maps. Google just maintains their own database of cell towers. If you don't know what I'm talking about, see the wuote and link I posted earlier in this thread (to the microsoft forums).

4: How can you say GSM doesn't get better phones? This entire thread is about leaving Sprint for a GSM phone, lol. GSM also has that Windows Mobile phone that has a built in projector, will be getting the Omnia Pro, The Sony Xperia series, and going back they had the Kaiser and the HTC Universal. There is no comparison here. GSM gets better phones, and I don't see how you can even try to debate that.

5: Well for starters- Sprint won't let you switch to certain phones unless you have a certain plan. That is not an issue with GSM. Plus, when you switch phones on CDMA, you are instructed to leave at least one (or both) of the phones turned off for a period of time. Not an issue with GSM.

6: There are WAY more people holding onto AT&T than there are holding onto Sprint. Again, millions of customers leave Sprint every quarter- and have for quite some time. Millions of people join AT&T every quarter, and have for quite some time. So your point about peoiple hanging onto Sprint is ridiculous. When Sprint starts gaining customers, then you might have a point. But right now, that's hillarious that you would even say something like that.

1 and 2 are the same technology not the same thing, read my post correctly man. As soon as voice and data are possible so will that conference call feature. whether its true cell tower lock or not, it instantly finds me, so thats the advantage you were talking about. As for everything else you keep continuing to go back to who has more customers and people leaving sprint, the fact that they have more customers is irrelavent to who has a better network. The reason you know this is because most of the people that leave sprint is because of customer service, not the network. Ask the majority of the people who had sprint that left and 80% of them will tell you because of customer service. Hey i'm not here to convince you to come to sprint or verizon, if you don't want to then its up to you. do you wonder why tmobile has the cheapest plans, its because they have the worst network. Sprint has the 2nd cheapest plans, its because we have the worst customer service and are losing customers everyday because. there is a reason for all the maddness.

to get this thread back on track, as everyone here, except saltydawg, has stated, I will not leave sprint to get this phone but sprint better be picking this up soon after or at least definitely before verizon.

[Mr.KLeen]

here are some htc devices coming in 2010
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/06/h...es-on-display/

[JokeZony0u]

Guys, please don't forget that HD2 is only "special" because its the first capacitive touch screen and because it has an extremely large screen.

For those of you guys planning on getting it, take into consideration of HTC's roadmap for 2010. It's loaded with phones that have capacitive touchscreens and also phones that have larger screens than the TP2 (though not bigger than the HD2).

Seriously, the HD2 is only a hype, future phones will definitely have capacitive touch screens and have large, very large screens.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX

Can we please get back on topic before the mods have to come in and break up the fight?

What's wrong with a healthy debate? This debate is deffinitely part of the topic (switching carriers for a phone). It's nice to debate and let people learn the real deal. Clearly, people have been fed the line that CDMA is better than GSM for far too long. Cheaper, yes. Better coverage in some places, yes. But the technology itself pales when compared to GSM.

[WisdomWolfX]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

What's wrong with a healthy debate? This debate is deffinitely part of the topic (switching carriers for a phone). It's nice to debate and let people learn the real deal. Clearly, people have been fed the line that CDMA is better than GSM for far too long. Cheaper, yes. Better coverage in MOST places, yes. But the technology itself pales when compared to GSM.

I fixed your quote.

I have no problems with a debate, it just seemed to be getting more about the network than the actual topic of the thread (the HD2).

My biggest problems with GSM are that the voice quality is poor and it's coverage is down right apauling when it comes to data. I live just outside Charlotte and there is no 3G coverage here. In the city, sure. But travel to any of the suburbs and you are SOL. Meanwhile, I rarely come across a place without EVDO coverage even when I go way up in the boonies. While I would like Voice/Data, I find that I'm more likely to be in a place with Wi-Fi (in which case I can do voice/data simultaneously with CDMA device) than a place with 3G (GSM) coverage when I need it.

So yes GSM certainly has benefits, but I think they are either unnecessary or too hard to come by to make the switch worthwhile.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX

I fixed your quote.

I have no problems with a debate, it just seemed to be getting more about the network than the actual topic of the thread (the HD2).

My biggest problems with GSM are that the voice quality is poor and it's coverage is down right apauling when it comes to data. I live just outside Charlotte and there is no 3G coverage here. In the city, sure. But travel to any of the suburbs and you are SOL. Meanwhile, I rarely come across a place without EVDO coverage even when I go way up in the boonies. While I would like Voice/Data, I find that I'm more likely to be in a place with Wi-Fi (in which case I can do voice/data simultaneously with CDMA device) than a place with 3G (GSM) coverage when I need it.

So yes GSM certainly has benefits, but I think they are either unnecessary or too hard to come by to make the switch worthwhile.

this post explains everything. this is exactly how everyone else feels and is the truth.

[AZTECHKA]

Talking and surfing.... Huh...
IF YOU CAN FIND A SIGNAL!
I have alot of iphone friends and family. They're always running like one bar of signal strength or no service. NONE of them have yet showed me that feature. What's the point? So you can make reservations while you are on the phone with your BFF... OMG! How coool.
LOL.
If the HD2 comes to sprint I'm all over it.
If not... I keep my TP2 which I love and I wait for W7 and what it promises to bring with it.
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