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[the7thson]

Originally Posted by p-slim

Plus people who have hd2 or nexus will automatically be upgraded to 21mbps without having to buy a new phone.

Huh? Is the HD2 hardware capable of 21mbps?

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by the7thson

Huh? Is the HD2 hardware capable of 21mbps?

my bad I posted wrong links. here are the right ones.
Both nexus and hd2 are 21mbps capable.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=2814

http://jkontherun.com/2009/12/08/t-m...work-hands-on/

[the7thson]

Originally Posted by p-slim

my bad I posted wrong links. here are the right ones.
Both nexus and hd2 are 21mbps capable.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=2814

http://jkontherun.com/2009/12/08/t-m...work-hands-on/

I do understand that T-Mobile's network will be capable of it, but I didn't see anywhere in your links where it said that the HD2's hardware was capable of 21mbps.

http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd...ification.html <-- This says it only does 7.2mbps

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by the7thson

I do understand that T-Mobile's network will be capable of it, but I didn't see anywhere in your links where it said that the HD2's hardware was capable of 21mbps.

http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd...ification.html <-- This says it only does 7.2mbps

http://jkontherun.com/2009/12/08/t-m...work-hands-on/

this one states that the g1, my touch, and touch pro2 can take advantage of it, it only makes sense that winmo's flagship phone will be able to take advantage of it also.

edit: you're right it doesn't say hd2 is capable, but if nexus which is already out is capable of it, i'm positive hd2 will be capable also. Especially if tmobile has phones already capable of doing it, why would a future phone not?

[the7thson]

Originally Posted by p-slim

http://jkontherun.com/2009/12/08/t-m...work-hands-on/

this one states that the g1, my touch, and touch pro2 can take advantage of it, it only makes sense that winmo's flagship phone will be able to take advantage of it also.

edit: you're right it doesn't say hd2 is capable, but if nexus which is already out is capable of it, i'm positive hd2 will be capable also. Especially if tmobile has phones already capable of doing it, why would a future phone not?

The HD2 is not a future phone, it's been out for months all over the world. Assuming that because the N1 is capable, then the HD2 will also be capable is just conjecture imo. Everywhere I have seen the specs listed it just says 7.2mbps.

I'm not trying to argue at all, I wish like you that it was capable of 21mbps, I was just looking for some definite facts. Cheers

EDIT: Here's the text from your link - "The carrier is currently in the process of migrating from its 3.6 Mbps HSPA network to 7.2 Mbps. And it’s not just for new hardware — many existing handsets like the G1, MyTouch and TouchPro 2 can take advantage of the in-progress network upgrade. That benefit can go a long way when compared to the WiMAX alternative, which requires new hardware for its network."

He means that the G1 and MyTouch etc can advantage of the upgrade from 3.6 to 7.2. He's not talking about 21mbps.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by the7thson

The HD2 is not a future phone, it's been out for months all over the world. Assuming that because the N1 is capable, then the HD2 will also be capable is just conjecture imo. Everywhere I have seen the specs listed it just says 7.2mbps.

I'm not trying to argue at all, I wish like you that it was capable of 21mbps, I was just looking for some definite facts. Cheers

EDIT: Here's the text from your link - "The carrier is currently in the process of migrating from its 3.6 Mbps HSPA network to 7.2 Mbps. And it’s not just for new hardware — many existing handsets like the G1, MyTouch and TouchPro 2 can take advantage of the in-progress network upgrade. That benefit can go a long way when compared to the WiMAX alternative, which requires new hardware for its network."

He means that the G1 and MyTouch etc can advantage of the upgrade from 3.6 to 7.2. He's not talking about 21mbps.

you are correct there is no official press release about that, but overall there haven't been any spec release for the tmobile version at all. the spec sheet you posted is for the european overseas version and before hspa+ was released. I can understand you wanted facts but i haven't found any yet. if their are phones that tmobile have that do hspa, like the nexus or n900, then i'm pretty sure the hd2 will. I'm only going to tmobile if it does and being as microsoft has stated that is the flag ship phone im pretty sure it will.

[the7thson]

Originally Posted by p-slim

you are correct there is no official press release about that, but overall there haven't been any spec release for the tmobile version at all. the spec sheet you posted is for the european overseas version and before hspa+ was released. I can understand you wanted facts but i haven't found any yet. if their are phones that tmobile have that do hspa, like the nexus or n900, then i'm pretty sure the hd2 will. I'm only going to tmobile if it does and being as microsoft has stated that is the flag ship phone im pretty sure it will.

The Nexus One doesn't do 21mbps either.
http://www.google.com/phone/static/e...ech_specs.html It's 7.2mbps just like the everything else. The N900 is the only phone I know of that will do 21, but who knows when that will be. One company's flagship model doesn't have to do everything another company's flagship model does, there will always be differences across manufacturers, operating systems, networks, carriers etc.

Based on what you said, it looks like you won't be going to T-Mobile after all since the HD2 is not about have a change in it's chipset to support 21mbps. Good luck

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by the7thson

The Nexus One doesn't do 21mbps either.
http://www.google.com/phone/static/e...ech_specs.html It's 7.2mbps just like the everything else. The N900 is the only phone I know of that will do 21, but who knows when that will be. One company's flagship model doesn't have to do everything another company's flagship model does, there will always be differences across manufacturers, operating systems, networks, carriers etc.

Based on what you said, it looks like you won't be going to T-Mobile after all since the HD2 is not about have a change in it's chipset to support 21mbps. Good luck

this website specifically says nexus is capable of 21mbps. tmobile hasn't updated any of their websites even the 3g speeds, so going on tmobile website it states only 1mbps download, we all know this has changed. Trust me, i'm not worried about it, i'm almost positive hd2 will support hspa+

http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=2814

[the7thson]

Originally Posted by p-slim

this website specifically says nexus is capable of 21mbps. tmobile hasn't updated any of their websites even the 3g speeds, so going on tmobile website it states only 1mbps download, we all know this has changed. Trust me, i'm not worried about it, i'm almost positive hd2 will support hspa+

http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=2814

You do realize that the link you posted is just a blog post by some guy right? The link I sent you where is says 7.2mbps is Google's spec page for their own phone.
Reading comprehension is key, but take what you will from it all. All I can tell you is that the HD2 will not do 21mbps and you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. I'm moving on now, good luck to you sir.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by the7thson

You do realize that the link you posted is just a blog post by some guy right? The link I sent you where is says 7.2mbps is Google's spec page for their own phone.
Reading comprehension is key, but take what you will from it all. All I can tell you is that the HD2 will not do 21mbps and you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. I'm moving on now, good luck to you sir.

you do realize hspa+ isn't available yet, so more then likely most websites will not be talking about it since no one knows when the release will be. Just like going from evdo to evdo reva, as long as the phone can process the speeds i'm sure no actual radio upgrade is needed. When evdo was available all phones only said evdo, when evdo rev a was available all phones got the upgrade instantly. I'm not positive but only time will tell. No need for us to go back and forth, though i know you want a reason to keep sprint because all other reasons are looking bleak.