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Old 09-25-2009, 06:46 PM
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Re: HTC leo or Touch Pro2

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Google controls the way those apps are distributed. They aren't even on the Android market. Not like windows mobile.

Cyanogen may be dead, because if he is not allowed to distribute those apps, then his modifications to Android are all for naught, because those Google apps have no viable alternatives yet. Cyanogen could continue to release his mods, just cutting out the pieces Google doesn't want him to distribute.

Disappointing on Google's part. Hopefully something will be worked out. 1. They put those apps in the Market, 2. They allow Cyanogen to distribute them.
I guess not. The letter is cease and desist.

And U still don't see the point. WM ROM's put any google product in there and nobody hears from Google. SO why is Google singleling cynayogen out? That is the question. Apparently, He pissed of somebody from Google that is why they are after his @ss. Plus cyanogenmod is not the only custom Android ROM out there that has this Apps. It just rings 1 thing to me. He's Custom Android ROM is too great and too popular and Google does not like it. Google is still in control of Google Android.It is not as open as U think. Enuff said!
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Re: HTC leo or Touch Pro2

read this from geardiary. Is this how U define Open Source?

Looks like Google is re-defining the definition of open source. Foolish me figured if it’s open , that means you can do anything with it. Right? Guess not. Funny how Windows Mobile, Palm and RIM (closed systems) have never had this policy. Expect some fancy footwork as this little agreement becomes more widely known. Snuggled right in the pages of Google’s Android terms of service:

Google may discover a product that violates the developer distribution agreement … in such an instance, Google retains the right to remotely remove those applications from your device at its sole discretion,



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Google controls the way those apps are distributed. They aren't even on the Android market. Not like windows mobile.

Cyanogen may be dead, because if he is not allowed to distribute those apps, then his modifications to Android are all for naught, because those Google apps have no viable alternatives yet. Cyanogen could continue to release his mods, just cutting out the pieces Google doesn't want him to distribute.

Disappointing on Google's part. Hopefully something will be worked out. 1. They put those apps in the Market, 2. They allow Cyanogen to distribute them.
I guess not. The letter is cease and desist.

And U still don't see the point. WM ROM's put any google product in there and nobody hears from Google. SO why is Google singleling cynayogen out? That is the question. Apparently, He pissed of somebody from Google that is why they are after his @ss. Plus cyanogenmod is not the only custom Android ROM out there that has this Apps. It just rings 1 thing to me. He's Custom Android ROM is too great and too popular and Google does not like it. Google is still in control of Google Android.It is not as open as U think. Enuff said!
You miss my point. The C&D is to stop distributing those apps, not the Rom. If the Rom contains the apps then he needs to remove them. Android the OS is open source, as I said call up the code and modify it. This case is a case of him violating their distribution rights and agreements. It does seem to go against open source, but one has to remember the apps cited arent part of the open source android.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:52 PM
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You miss my point. The C&D is to stop distributing those apps, not the Rom. If the Rom contains the apps then he needs to remove them. Android the OS is open source, as I said call up the code and modify it. This case is a case of him violating their distribution rights and agreements. It does seem to go against open source, but one has to remember the apps cited arent part of the open source android.
He does not just wanna to remove the Apps. He want to quit the development. Maybe there is more to it than what we know.
Open source OS is not Open if there are terms like that. How can an Open source OS have boundaries and limitations? So I will say it again. Android is open source in theory.
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Re: HTC leo or Touch Pro2

Everyone should chill about open source. Android is open source, Gmail and the etc. never were. It's just like if Microsoft created something open source and you complaining because Microsoft Office is not.

Second, The Leo is early, but i'm sure its going to be a hot choice, though I have a grave feeling its GSM.

TP2 for now, as Leo is a ways off, and not guarenteed CDMA, especially because its supposed to be an unbranded model or something
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Everyone should chill about open source. Android is open source, Gmail and the etc. never were. It's just like if Microsoft created something open source and you complaining because Microsoft Office is not.

Second, The Leo is early, but i'm sure its going to be a hot choice, though I have a grave feeling its GSM.

TP2 for now, as Leo is a ways off, and not guarenteed CDMA, especially because its supposed to be an unbranded model or something
Ok, define open source for me then put this on your definition:

"Google may discover a product that violates the developer distribution agreement … in such an instance, Google retains the right to remotely remove those applications from your device at its sole discretion,"
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Ok, define open source for me then put this on your definition:

"Google may discover a product that violates the developer distribution agreement … in such an instance, Google retains the right to remotely remove those applications from your device at its sole discretion,"
a license is not open source. To add, there are ways around that law when it comes to modifications to the said open source software, you can then redistribute it under a new license.
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Re: HTC leo or Touch Pro2

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a license is not open source. To add, there are ways around that law when it comes to modifications to the said open source software, you can then redistribute it under a new license.
Google has a remote kill switch on their android.. They will remove any app that they think violate that term. Wether U like it or not. See how it goes? An open sourced OS being controlled? It's totally contradicting.

See, Android OS is open source. No question about that. But the real question is, How open it is? How much freedon do we have?

Look here

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Re: HTC leo or Touch Pro2

I wanna say this that U sporklan, Think that U know something. But In reality, U know nothing. U keep on saying that Google does not have anything to do with Android anymore. U keep on saying Android is so free and anyone can do whatever they want on Android. But U never link anything on anything U claim. Dude, R U an Android developer? All U say on this rebatal is Android is open source. On what level? U sporklan is brewing stories, U do not have proof to back up ur claims, So I will say, Give it up, bcoz U don't know anything about Android aside from the fact, That It is open source.

Now sporklan, Define to me What Android Open source mean. The way even a noob will understand?

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