Notice About Stealing Software, NFSFAN

[itsall_cooool]

Originally Posted by stifiling

it is plagiarism. can't deny that. and it was wrong and a bad move. but guess he said to himself one day, "think i'll steal no2chem's (one of the most popular guys on the site) work...and claim it as my own."

to think that was his plan....is what's silly.

That is exactly what happened, and I'd say it was a 'silly plan', and to dismiss the possibility that, beacuse it's so dumb it couldn't have been the intent, is plain foolish. Usually its the simplest explanation that applies, and in this case it is correct. What apparently happened is the efforts put into the deception weren't good enough and the code left behind was missed. DOH!

[stifiling]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

Ever notice how you view other people as basically being like yourself?

i do that a lot. and sometimes i'm wrong.

but another scenario that would make sense, once again is the "i didn't know i was doing anything wrong" outlook rather then the...."ha ha, suckered that legendary, super popular No2Chem right into the information i needed. now i can jus delete his name and make this rom look completely like my own, right here on the exact same website that he's a God on."

one view makes more sense then other wouldn't u agree? one is a bad move, the other is jus Dumb.

[stifiling]

Originally Posted by itsall_cooool

That is exactly what happened, and I'd say it was a 'silly plan', and to dismiss the possibility that, beacuse it's so dumb it couldn't have been the intent, is plain foolish. Usually its the simplest explanation that applies, and in this case it is correct. What apparently happened is the efforts put into the deception weren't good enough and the code left behind was missed. DOH!

you could be right. hell i don't know. i don't have a vogue so i don't use his stuff anyway. No2Chem all the way for me, been using his roms since the beginning. on the clean 5067 titan rom right now.

like u said usually it's the simplest explanation that applies, so it is likely.

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by stifiling

but another scenario that would make sense, once again is the "i didn't know i was doing anything wrong" outlook rather then the...."ha ha, suckered that legendary, super popular No2Chem right into the information i needed. now i can jus delete his name and make this rom look completely like my own, right here on the exact same website that he's a God on."

But that's just it...that scenario doesn't make sense. You'd have to explain how he managed to get a contraband app that doesn't seem to exist anywhere else. At best, you could suggest that maybe he had a stupid accomplice. Unfortunately, there isn't a single shred of evidence to support that.

one view makes more sense then other wouldn't u agree? one is a bad move, the other is jus Dumb.

Yes, unfortunately I think we disagree on which view makes more sense.

[fredcatsmommy]

there's lots of dumb criminals out there. in fact, lots of shows have been made featuring the dumbest criminals caught on video. Just because the rest of us see their plans as dumb doesn't mean those who chose to steal, burglarize, etc. did. I'm not sure how removing code, limited to the author's identity, can be anything but intentional. BTW, love your work no2chem.

[slypher]

DAMN....this would get me really PO'd if I were No2. Gotta tell ya though, No2 is a class act cause he ripped the guy a new one in a professional manner.

-s

[rstoyguy]

This is one of the reasons I spend a bit of my free time to make OEM's, release kitchens, etc... Too many chefs with a donation button that are actually trying to profit off someone elses free work. I honestly thought that his reference to the 1% battery driver was his inability to replace a .dll in a rom and someone helped him...I thought it was funny at first. But seeing this I don't approve. As a former shareware author I can understand this sticky. NSFAN, DHARVEY, and ppchaven.com are all on my **** list. Are there any more dharvey cronies we need to take care of?


But if anyone is interested, that's the beef I had w/dharvey. Taking other peoples FREE work and wanting payment for himself. A donation button is ok, but as long as folks understand it's a compensation for your time putting someones else's free pieces together. He mislead many users here about what was his, and mislead many users here about his drivers... I wonder how much he made off that scam...

[meccadon123]

I haven't seen "hex++ programming" like that since we used to rename (hex edit) 2.5 lag punters on AOL back in 94-95'.

What he did was hardly "by accident" it's an out right hex edit.

[Goddbody]

What I don't understand which many members have already eluded too is the fact that he knows No2 probably was knowledgable enough to figure out what he did exactly in the fashion he displayed in the initial post in this thread. With that said I am not understanding why one would blantantly do it openly for all to see, especially amongst this clandestined group knowledgable enough to scrutinize the work with a fine tooth comb. I really don't get it?

[Yay 4 Juggs]

Originally Posted by no2chem

However, I must now regrettably enforce the consequences. Although the forum recommends an instant-ban for this type of offense, as it is "warez", It appears that a discussion between moderators have reached the consensus to be lenient, and that the appropriate consequence for this type of offense is 2-week ban for regular users, 3-weeks for "those who should have known better". Effective immediately, NFSFAN's ROMS have been pulled due to their illegal content, and all users who post content of this nature will be banned for 3-weeks. This is of course, acceptable to the alternative, a DMCA takedown notice sent to PPCGeeks.

uh...who said anything about being lenient? i know i didnt...thats a a one touch ban right there