Notice About Stealing Software, NFSFAN

[dmdsoftware]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

I'm open to suggestion. I haven't come up with another scenario that fits the facts, and I've had plenty of time to think about it. It'd be nice to think he isn't that stupid, but the present facts are very compelling.

Ever notice how you view other people as basically being like yourself? Anyone remember what NFSfan accused various people of a couple weeks back based on ZERO facts? Interesting coincidence.

I recall there were other people suggesting he was ripping their work, without credit as well. In particular the startup screens etc.

[angel12]

Originally Posted by stifiling

couldn't have said it better myself. that's exactly what it would be like. and it would be so completely idiotic, moronic, and imbecilic....that i don't exactly think that's what he was doing.

it don't make sense to you all that..this move was jus, "TOO DUMB" and maybe there's a more sensible reasoning behind it?

it was a BAD move....not sure if it was a DUMB one. and that's what it's being categorized as right now. i don't think the guy is a dummy.

but then again, he may jus be a retard that's handy with a hex editor. possible, but doesn't really make much sense to me.

it would be completely and totally idiotic. but he wasnt just doing it to no2chem. he took tools from bepe (bepe's rom protection) and recoded them to look like he made them (NFSFANS Rom Protection) when it was the same exact thing, yet poorly emplemented.

[stifiling]

it is plagiarism. can't deny that. and it was wrong and a bad move. but guess he said to himself one day, "think i'll steal no2chem's (one of the most popular guys on the site) work...and claim it as my own."

to think that was his plan....is what's silly.

[itsall_cooool]

Originally Posted by stifiling

it is plagiarism. can't deny that. and it was wrong and a bad move. but guess he said to himself one day, "think i'll steal no2chem's (one of the most popular guys on the site) work...and claim it as my own."

to think that was his plan....is what's silly.

That is exactly what happened, and I'd say it was a 'silly plan', and to dismiss the possibility that, beacuse it's so dumb it couldn't have been the intent, is plain foolish. Usually its the simplest explanation that applies, and in this case it is correct. What apparently happened is the efforts put into the deception weren't good enough and the code left behind was missed. DOH!

[stifiling]

Originally Posted by itsall_cooool

That is exactly what happened, and I'd say it was a 'silly plan', and to dismiss the possibility that, beacuse it's so dumb it couldn't have been the intent, is plain foolish. Usually its the simplest explanation that applies, and in this case it is correct. What apparently happened is the efforts put into the deception weren't good enough and the code left behind was missed. DOH!

you could be right. hell i don't know. i don't have a vogue so i don't use his stuff anyway. No2Chem all the way for me, been using his roms since the beginning. on the clean 5067 titan rom right now.

like u said usually it's the simplest explanation that applies, so it is likely.

[fredcatsmommy]

there's lots of dumb criminals out there. in fact, lots of shows have been made featuring the dumbest criminals caught on video. Just because the rest of us see their plans as dumb doesn't mean those who chose to steal, burglarize, etc. did. I'm not sure how removing code, limited to the author's identity, can be anything but intentional. BTW, love your work no2chem.

[slypher]

DAMN....this would get me really PO'd if I were No2. Gotta tell ya though, No2 is a class act cause he ripped the guy a new one in a professional manner.

-s

[rstoyguy]

This is one of the reasons I spend a bit of my free time to make OEM's, release kitchens, etc... Too many chefs with a donation button that are actually trying to profit off someone elses free work. I honestly thought that his reference to the 1% battery driver was his inability to replace a .dll in a rom and someone helped him...I thought it was funny at first. But seeing this I don't approve. As a former shareware author I can understand this sticky. NSFAN, DHARVEY, and ppchaven.com are all on my **** list. Are there any more dharvey cronies we need to take care of?


But if anyone is interested, that's the beef I had w/dharvey. Taking other peoples FREE work and wanting payment for himself. A donation button is ok, but as long as folks understand it's a compensation for your time putting someones else's free pieces together. He mislead many users here about what was his, and mislead many users here about his drivers... I wonder how much he made off that scam...

[piscesjoey]

Originally Posted by rstoyguy

This is one of the reasons I spend a bit of my free time to make OEM's, release kitchens, etc... Too many chefs with a donation button that are actually trying to profit off someone elses free work. I honestly thought that his reference to the 1% battery driver was his inability to replace a .dll in a rom and someone helped him...I thought it was funny at first. But seeing this I don't approve. As a former shareware author I can understand this sticky. NSFAN, DHARVEY, and ppchaven.com are all on my **** list. Are there any more dharvey cronies we need to take care of?


But if anyone is interested, that's the beef I had w/dharvey. Taking other peoples FREE work and wanting payment for himself. A donation button is ok, but as long as folks understand it's a compensation for your time putting someones else's free pieces together. He mislead many users here about what was his, and mislead many users here about his drivers... I wonder how much he made off that scam...

Wow, and for a while I thought that Harvey was one of the good guys here, but guess I was one of the “mislead” all this time, but back on subject, NFSFAN should jus come forward, admit he was dead wrong, and apologize to No2Chem and PPCGeeks to save the very little respect that he has left here.

[meccadon123]

I haven't seen "hex++ programming" like that since we used to rename (hex edit) 2.5 lag punters on AOL back in 94-95'.

What he did was hardly "by accident" it's an out right hex edit.