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Yep... this isn't bootleg software, but it's totally unsupported by the carrier, UTStarCom, and Microsoft. If you have a problem, you need to fix it yourself (with the help of folks on the forum, etc...) if you cannot fix it, you should reflash to a supported ROM image, and re-test. If the problem continues, *then* go ask for support.
Somehow, that's not been made clear (or people missed it...) 
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i think that the people who are building ROMs (myself shortly...once i get some "me" time!) should put this in their posts. Now, I know that it still takes the people to read, but once I start cooking, I am going to post a link to the official ROMs so people can re-flash with the stock ROMs. Just a suggestion!
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02-17-2007, 06:18 PM
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2) What's clear to some isnt clear to other; yet somehow you would think this is common sense.
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02-17-2007, 06:28 PM
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Well... whether or not what we're dealing with is bootleg software is still (imho) up in the air. I think this is a grey area.
The thing is, we do have a license to Windows Mobile 5 (similarly, we don't have a license to Windows Mobile 6). However, by the same token, we aren't technically supposed to have AKU 3.x, since no provider (specifically our respective ones) has provided them to us. My personal take on it is that I hold that I can move to whichever version of Windows Mobile 5 that I feel works best, and that since (at least in my case) it's purely for personal use only, I'm not taking this software and using it in a way for which it was not intended, and (most importantly) I'm not using up time that's paid support with people who aren't supposed to deal with what I'm doing, that I'm in the clear. Mind you, IANAL, and I have a deep suspicion that Microsoft, HTC, and Sprint (my provider) may not agree with me. But, everything I'm doing really affects only me, so I doubt they'll come knocking on my door anytime soon. (/me knocks on wood  )
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02-17-2007, 08:54 PM
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I was just raising the flag on the use of "bootleg software" not that bootleg software was supported
I agree with sogarth that we are in the grey areas of this, but I'm of the mind that it's only because of the braindead model of software distribution used for Windows Mobile. If the OEMs were not in the loop, we could deal with MS directly. I'd lean towards the 'major revision number == windows version' view, where WM5 is like XP (where you get free updates) and WM6 would be vista. You'd pay to upgrade to vista, and if MS offered me a rom image for WM6 for the same $60 (or whatever it is) OEM licence fee, I'd take it. It looks like WM6 can download updates, but they'd end up in your storage flash (so it seems) so that'd work for updating the odd dll or exe, but a major update would need a flash. Heck, if they sold a kitchen for $60, with no redistribution rights, I'd take that
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How does this microclunk blow below the belt effect everyone working on the current roms on this website? Just wondering how much crap I need to download before its no longer there.. hehe
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I just wish I had my PPC-6700 some weeks ago, then I would have had more knowledge and the threaded sms. Since I just got it less than a week ago, I cant find the threaded sms anywhere.
That would be the one useful thing I could use since I dont know enough about the different roms / aku to even be bothered with them.
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Below is a message I sent to XDA Developers Board Administrator:
I think that you will find that MS has overstated its case. In the US, the federal courts have held that a person who purchases a license to software may customize the software as much as he wants up to destroying the entire program as long as it is for his own personal use. He may also employ persons to perform this customization for his own personal use. Everyone who has purchased a phone, has purchased one license to the OS software. Further, MS and the various companies put out upgrades to the software from time to time. And even further, MS provides developers' kits so that people may write software using the OS. MS is also missing the "freebe boat" in that it is receiving an unbelievable amount of free product development and consumer input to its products. They, like every other member of the public should watch, listen, and use the eforts of the people of this board who are so interested in improving the MS product. Finally, every member of this board is a "nut" about their phone and wants the newest "thing" so there is very little likelyhood that MS will lose any sales in this group, especially when the hardware changes every 12 to 18 months. In view of the above, I would respectfully request that you resist the MS request and continue to support the fine efforts of the members of this board and all others like this board. As an attorney myself, I know that MS is just "rattling its saber" to see if they can scare you away. I do not think that they would be successful in a suit against the board or any of its members in the US and certainly not in the EU where its reputation is lower than in the US. I would suggest that you respond to them with the points raised in this letter and see what their response is. Don't mention the "attorney" part yet, lets just let them do all the work for now. I will be happy to provide you to the cases that were decided in the US if you need them. Thank you for your great work! I think that MS is just plain wrongheaded on this one from any angle!
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