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Old 02-15-2007, 04:28 AM
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Helmi I'm gonna make that a new topic and global annouce it maybe we can get enough to help but M$ is powerful...
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:31 AM
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yes they are... their greedy is even more huge...
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:34 AM
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I know right Oh well what can u do but try and fight it....
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:16 PM
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To everyones point here, this is a multi-faceted problem.

The carriers have the mind set that they own the devices regardless that consumers purchased them and can do what they want with them.

In turn the Carriers (worldwide) put pressure on Microsoft to even use their OS and the OEMS build what the Carriers want because the carriers are their customers.

MS does not sell the WM OS as they do other OS's. so in fact the Carriers and OEMS are their customers. They take feed back from the consumer for features and as stated ship fully functional. It is the carriers that crippl;e features of the devices, because they have not figured out how to charge for it.

IN fact MS is getting complaints and flack from the carriers about the new Mobile update features from the carriers and in fact want the update customizable to point to the respective carrier. So again they want to control what is on the device.

As mentioned earlier thier money is in selling a new device and new contract.

To Microsoft stance on this, they have to adhere to the EULA agreement that is in place jointly with Carriers and OEM's. So in fact MS only did this out of pressure from their customers(OEM's and Carriers) Carriers mostly.

If you really think about it Microsoft does not care what hardware their software is on, they make their money on the sale of the software not hardware.
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:41 PM
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I agree. Hardware upgrades would be enough to make me upgrade. Call me crazy, but the scroll wheel on the side of the 6800 is almost enough to make me want to switch!
the 8525 has it and I played with it and it's very handy for one handed use
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http://ppc6700users.com/forums/viewt...?p=25054#25054

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I fwd this to a buddy at Microsoft licensing dept for some information.

Ill sign the petition

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quick update, he said it wasnt the actual product and downloads being asked to be yanked, just the visual aspects and the physical name of Microsoft be removed.

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hrm, interesting

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So Microsoft just doesn't want their logos and design properties included in custom roms? I could understand this as they would not want to be related and held responsible\liable for any problems, issues, bricking, hacking, cracking and other possible issues.
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very interesting......I wonder if this is true....
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:15 PM
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that would change things a bit...but then a customized ROM would have to be deviod of all M$ markings? (IE, work, etc) That sounds like a ton of work...
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No doubt it is the flood of people seeking "support" for their "bricked" phones from Sprint. All 12 of them.

Sheesh.

This is like the saying, "if you like it, buy it!" But you have some idiot that calls the company or manufacturer because their illegitimate software doesn't work as advertised.

Or the other idiots that are using bootlegged versions of windows, but call M$ cause they cant get windows updates.

schetti, I think the point you mention is common for people who just don't know any better.
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