Warez Vs. Tethering - Page 31

crazychef · #**301** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Genjinaro

Ok thats is wrong (nt accurate beyond a doubt).

My account with the U727 usb air card is not capped at 5GB.
New users who are not on a business account or corporate, may come under this.

This "cap" isn't universal. I frequently go over 5GB a month on my Unlimited account with Sprint. And my contract is honored to do so without scrutiny.

I can verify this.

700MB+ over and counting. No alterations in my serivce & this is the 5th month in a row that I have done so.

wann tell me im wrong on the 5gb cap now too?

please read the link where it states, ahh crap i gues ill go get that too... Furthermore, a single month of overage will not freeze a user’s account. Sprint will be using a three month rolling gauge, with a given user having to exceed 5GB in 2 out of the 3 months to register an infringement. First warnings will be issued as a formal reprimand, with further action taken on a case-by-case basis.

**Darkjedi** · #**302** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genjinaro

Ok thats is wrong (nt accurate beyond a doubt).

My account with the U727 usb air card is not capped at 5GB.
New users who are not on a business account or corporate, may come under this.

This "cap" isn't universal. I frequently go over 5GB a month on my Unlimited account with Sprint. And my contract is honored to do so without scrutiny.

I can verify this.

700MB+ over and counting. No alterations in my serivce & this is the 5th month in a row that I have done so.

From what I remember the 5GB is a soft-cap and Sprint will let you go over. However if you go over multiple months in a row (or something about 1 in 3 months? don't remember) they have the ability to cut your service. I have not heard any reports of anyone actually getting cut off however. This arguing about the 5GB cap is definitely out the boundary of the OP though. I don't think the legality of tethering without PAM was really in question and proving a 5GB cap exists doesn't really mean much besides Sprint is trying to stop people from abusing their networks.

crazychef · #**303** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by darkjedi007

From what I remember the 5GB is a soft-cap and Sprint will let you go over. However if you go over multiple months in a row (or something about 1 in 3 months? don't remember) they have the ability to cut your service. I have not heard any reports of anyone actually getting cut off however. This arguing about the 5GB cap is definitely out the boundary of the OP though. I don't think the legality of tethering without PAM was really in question and proving a 5GB cap exists doesn't really mean much besides Sprint is trying to stop people from abusing their networks.

and TELUS just did this to someone on this site...

**Genjinaro** · #**304** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:47 PM

Yes. You're close but still wrong to say "everyone" falls under the hat.
Just like your OP, there are exception to the rule.

There is a grey area.

Its up to you to make sure you get your legal entitlements. I did & I will continue to excercise them to the fullest.

In your defence:

Its the cap there. Yes.

Is it for everyone? No.

Your poof is right there, clean as day. I clearly p***** the cap & I expect to do it next month.
Is what I'm getting fair? Ask Sprint...

wraith79 · #**305** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dannzeman

Yeah, the big companies steal from us. Last I checked we all voluntarily gave them our money in return for a service. There's more to the cost of a device and the plans than just the what it cost to make the device. Besides, this isn't even relevant to the topic.

No one is disputing that. Sprint only wants us to use the data on our phone, unless you pay for the Phone as Modem plan.

Read the Terms of Service. It may not be illegal but its is breaking the TOS. Sprint wants us to pay for a service. We aren't. That is stealing. The OP feels we shouldn't be able to talk about it because we can't talk about warez because that is stealing too. Do you see the connection? That's the point of this thread.

Then don't read the thread.

Ok, dude, This msg wasn't for you, it was for crazychef! And I'm not saying that it isn't wrong, and yes, we voluntarily give them our money. But, look at it this way. What about all the inflation, these companies have over an 82% profit margin. Why shouldn't we be able to profit from this as well, in our own way?

crazychef · #**306** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:51 PM

is this want u guys want? ICS hack may/ or not be stealing/supplying/ or cracking software.. but as i wanted to establish.. were still stealing period.. laws or no laws, cuz like coz said, noone has ever asked ppc "offically" to put up that notice, ppc did it on their own..

so just because noones asked this subject of thethering to be "offically" removed, why cant it also now become a seperate banned topic now as well, due to the fact we are stealing... and the point of warez is also about stealing.. so its 2 different topics, but the same basic principal as theft in both cases of warez and tethering..

so why cant the topics both be banned... ppc chose to make a stand against warez on their own, im asking them to stand against this on their own as well..

crazychef · #**307** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genjinaro

Yes. You're close but still wrong to say "everyone" falls under the hat.
Just like your OP, there are exception to the rule.

There is a grey area.

Its up to you to make sure you get your legal entitlements. I did & I will continue to excercise them to the fullest.

In your defence:

Its the cap there. Yes.

Is it for everyone? No.

Your poof is right there, clean as day. I clearly p***** the cap & I expect to do it next month.
Is what I'm getting fair? Ask Sprint...

um what plan holders doesnt it cover excatly??? can u show me proof that it doesnt affect every type of data usuage and plan.. because im pretty sure SPRINT SITE says Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem... is there another type of connection your arguing is available to use and also unaffected by the cap... remember links and visual proof, from sprints site, because apparently every website on the net other than sprint are wrong about sprint 5gb cap

crazychef · #**308** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wraith79

Ok, dude, This msg wasn't for you, it was for crazychef! And I'm not saying that it isn't wrong, and yes, we voluntarily give them our money. But, look at it this way. What about all the inflation, these companies have over an 82% profit margin. Why shouldn't we be able to profit from this as well, in our own way?

can u please show some data for this... id really like to see any compnies in a list that have had 82 percent profit marigns in these hard economic times... i live in MI, right now we are DBL the national averages for unemployment... please find me a thriving buisness at 82 percent margin of profit... id really like to notify my new media here, so we can show some promising times in our dire State

**Darkjedi** · #**309** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

and TELUS just did this to someone on this site...

He wasn't cut off, but merely warned that he is going to be charged for PAM service. Not to mention that he didn't say that he went over the 5GB limit and only that he Telus noticed this PAM usage.

crazychef · #**310** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by darkjedi007

He wasn't cut off, but merely warned that he is going to be charged for PAM service. Not to mention that he didn't say that he went over the 5GB limit and only that he Telus noticed this PAM usage.

actually i think he made it quite clear that he was WAY UNDER the cap, and they still notfied him.. he said, he never used it that much..

never said he was cut off.. your guys point is cell companies dont care, well in his/this case TELUS does at the moment..