Warez Vs. Tethering

crazychef · #1 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 04:17 PM

First Sorry Coz, i know im fresh off of a suspension but its really a valid question...

warez /weirz/ A term used by software pirates use to describe a cracked game or application that is made available to the Internet, usually via FTP.

how is supplying a cab or reg edit for ICS not the same thing... people are blatantly saying "i dont wanna pay for it, how can i get this for free"

setting a reg edit up to change from PAM to SPRINT is no different than offering a crack for a program..

ill openly admit to using wmwifi, and not paying sprint.. what can i say, ive broken most laws, so i dont really care.. im not here to argue our moral stands on the issues.. im just saying, theres no differnce..

ARE WE NOT PROVIDING A WORK AROUND SOLUTION TO A SERVICE WE ALL ARE SUPPOSE TO BE PAYING FOR?????? how is this any differnt than a "crack" for something?

i think maybe im just tired of reading 10 new posts a day abotu tethering.. i think if we have it, we have, so that cant really change.. however i think it needs to be a banned topic now(since were not about to start posting pics of biling statements to prove we pay for it).. mostly because again, whats the difference between supposed warez and tethering.. and again, i hate seeing all the neewbie posts over it...

i honestly think everything about tethering should be removed... or if were gonna keep allowing tons of posts over and over about it, atleast make tethering its own forum and keep everything in 1 place..

TreyBeno · #2 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 04:23 PM

An interesting point of view that seems to have argueable merit. Explained the way it was, it does seem like the tethering "fix" is a wares. I mean come on, its willingly stealing a service from sprint. Isnt that what a cracked key or wares does? On the flip side, since we buy the phones and software, isnt it like we bought the registry to edit as well? Walking the line on this one.

crazychef · #3 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 04:38 PM

we def dont really own anything inside our phones, technically a new ROM, reg edit, or 3rd party DL voids our warranties

Konfuzion · #4 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 05:14 PM

I pay for unlimited data on my phone, How I use it is my prerogative. Whereas with "warez" you are paying for nothing but using it anyway. There are so many "moral" issues that could be brought up on this site, if you dont like the rules in place you know where to door is. Or make your own ppc site where warez discussion is allowed and tethering isnt.

crazychef · #5 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Konfuzion

I pay for unlimited data on my phone, How I use it is my prerogative. Whereas with "warez" you are paying for nothing but using it anyway. There are so many "moral" issues that could be brought up on this site, if you dont like the rules in place you know where to door is. Or make your own ppc site where warez discussion is allowed and tethering isnt.

but we all know full well, our data plans dont cover ths kind of usuage... you must be "Konfuzed" i guess, is there somewhere i said i supported "warez"????

did u miss the part where i said i use wmwifi? obviously im abusing this like most others, so check your attitude at the login screen please.. or where i said if we already have it fine, but future discussions and current threads should be removed

**hooover** · #6 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 05:27 PM

From a legal stand point Warez can not be posted...Cell company's know that people tether but they pretty much careless as long as the cap does not get reached..

**skeegcpp** · #7 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 06:15 PM

ima have to 2nd hooov's post. sorry man, but it just about sums it up, ya know? the cell companies prolly look at it like that. plus overage makes money too.

crazychef · #8 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 07:44 PM

first, if cell carrier dont care, why are there specific plans for it?

second do u guys personally repesent ur cell carrier, to say how "they do or dont feel" about something...

third, "overages make money" its pretty hard to go over 5gb cap.. i use wmwifi atleast 6yrs a day and dont even come close to 5gb.. so ur excuse for overages makes money is pretty lame and invalid...

fourth, just answer the question.. WHY IS IT ANY DIFFERENT "stealing/abusing/tweaking" ICS than it is if i tell someone how to steal/abuse/tweak a different program/app/ or game??

crazychef · #9 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hooover

From a legal stand point Warez can not be posted...Cell company's know that people tether but they pretty much careless as long as the cap does not get reached..

so then tell me from a legal stand point why ICS hacking is acceptable, since you wanna bring laws into this.. btw im a law student, so this should be interesting...

****pops bag of popcorn, grabs a soda, rolls a fatty, and waits for the nonsense answers to come forth****

**rstoyguy** · #10 (**permalink**) 02-21-2009, 08:18 PM

I agree this tethering hack should be considered warez.

Why: A person that applies this hack did so deliberately to avoid paying the charges that the carrier would charge for those additional services. Clearly stated in the Terms of agreement and plan brochures. By doing the hack, you are "stealing" a service that the consumer is normally charged for. It is also common knowledge in the online community that those who apply this hack do this to avoid paying their wireless company fees for a service that is also common knowledge that their cellular carrier charges for.

Current laws or not, that is theft by deception in any court of law...

edit: yes, it's on my plan.