no2chem "Fast Charge" Battery.dll - Page 4

fr4nk1yn · #31 (**permalink**) 12-22-2008, 02:32 AM

All lithium batteries are rated and capable of charging at 1c.
With the battery being 1340mAH it's not even close to damaging it.

I charge my RC batteries at 1c with no ill effects.

**Mr. X** · #32 (**permalink**) 12-22-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dcperdue

FYI charging your battery in this method will shorten its life.

um no it wont, the battery is rated for 1000mAh charge rate

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr4nk1yn

All lithium batteries are rated and capable of charging at 1c.
With the battery being 1340mAH it's not even close to damaging it.

I charge my RC batteries at 1c with no ill effects.

i dont even understand what you're trying to say here but if your saying 1A (1000mA) is fine for the battery, you're correct.

fr4nk1yn · #33 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 01:15 AM

My RC planes uselithium polymer batteries.
1c is equal to the capacity of the battery.
So a 2000mAH battery can be charged at 2amps safely.

Polymer and ion are the same in chemistry and charging.
So yeah I was saying a 900mAH charge into a 1340mah battery is safe.

**tobeychris** · #34 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 01:56 AM

I'm confused and think some terms might be mixed up... but Juggalo is right, and so is fr4nk1yn.

What I think fr4nk1yn was trying to say, is that lithium ion batteries can accept a charging rate in mA up to their capacity in mAh.

SO: The 1340mAh batteries can accept a charge up to a 1340mA output from the charger. This however is not advised, as this much power into a tiny battery causes major heat issues, and I believe the Diamond even has a high temp shutoff. Ideally you want a charge between half of the mAh (seems a bit slow) and all of it (too much heat) so for us, that's 1 Amp.

500mA = Slow
1000mA = Nice

dcperdue · #35 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Drybonz

Really? General consensus seems to be that it will not. What makes you say that it will?

Its a proven fact rapid charging any batt shortens its life span. Thats why if you charge your phone off the usb charger it holds a charge longer then when you charge it off the ac charger. Drain your battery and charge with usb or charger then drain it and charge with this method and you will see it dont hold a charge for as long.

I mean seriously if it was ok then the manufacture would of implimented this in their roms in the first place as being able to brag about the fast charge times would be a selling point. But given the reduced batt life and the warrenty on the batts they would be spending a **** load of money replacing batts under warrenty because of their reduced life in charging them this way.

mherald81 · #36 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 03:24 AM

Based on my understanding from my Energy Conversion class in college, both Juggalo_X and fr4nk1yn are correct.

@dcperdue: Just because the OEMs and manufacturers don't implement any type of tweaks to improve performance doesn't mean it's damaging to the product. If that was the case, then simple registry tweaks to increase the cache size would be damaging by your logic since they didn't implement that tweak. It was probably a poor business decision from someone that didn't have a complete understanding of the technical stuff or they just got lazy...keep in mind this is HTC.

**Drybonz** · #37 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dcperdue

I mean seriously if it was ok then the manufacture would of implimented this in their roms in the first place

If this were the general rule we wouldn't even need custom roms in the first place. The manufacturer would give us all the very best out of the box.

But obviously that is not the case and that is why this forum is here, I suppose.

dcperdue · #38 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 01:11 PM

well when i charge off the usb i get about 2 more hours charge then when i charge it off the ac adapter. And on my old 6800 my first battery I alwayes charged off the ac adapter and withen 6 month it would not hold a charge. The replacement batt I charged off the usb port on my pc alwayes and it still works on the phone which I gave to my employee and its going on a year and a half now.

But if I am proven to be wrong then so be it but from alwayes using rechargable batts for years I have found that the faster you charge them the faster they die.

w0rdie · #39 (**permalink**) 12-23-2008, 01:25 PM

DCP... what you're talking about is the effect that things like car chargers and whatnot have on a standard battery that wasn't intended to be charged from anything other than a wall charger.

This isn't the same ball of wax buddy.

**Torx** · #40 (**permalink**) 01-20-2009, 10:55 PM

im starting to realize how horrible the charging is on the diamond.
its literally taken about 3 hours to charge from 30% to 90%

my vogue wouldve been charged within an hour at most.

without going to mightyrom, do i have any more options??
charge current from the wall is between 250-300, seems kinda piss poor to me.