Touch Pro 2 FM Radio Questions/Answers - Page 33

**horndoctor** · #**321** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 01:53 AM

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

From what I understand, flashing a GSM rom to a CDMA TP2 will only "brick" it if the GSM rom includes GSM radio files/drivers. For example flashing a shipped rom from a Tilt2 to a Sprint TP2.

Miami_Son · #**322** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by imnuts

Install a battery driver made for a different device. It's only there to help with power management and tell the phone how much battery is remaining, so it's not that critical of a driver really, at least as far as OS function goes. It will do the same thing. VZW's latest MR2 update for the TP2 had a bad file in it that kept the device from booting if you had an unlocked phone. The file didn't have any function at all, but it still kept the phone from booting up if it was unlocked.

These devices aren't like a normal computer, they don't have a library of generic drivers to fall back on, and they don't have a bunch of debugging stuff built in to the underlying OS. Space is limited, so if something doesn't come back right, it just stops and doesn't skip over it or anything, it just stops where it is, maybe restarts and tries again, but it's still fairly limited on what it will do.

Nearly all of the hardware is identical to the TP1 outside of the screen, try flashing a TP1 ROM to a TP2 device and it will get the same result as flashing a GSM TP2 ROM to a CDMA TP2 device.

Then, obviously, something is not identical in these phones hardware-wise, contrary to what this rep allegedly told the guy in Connecticut.

**imnuts** · #**323** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 01:26 PM

He said that it's identical outside of the cellular radio, which makes sense. If the cellular radio were the same as well, then the GSM models could run on GSM/CDMA as well, which they can't. The only other difference between the GSM and CDMA versions is the lack of a forward facing camera and keyboards, which are different among all TP2s. I'm guessing the front facing camera was left out because it would be useless on a CDMA device for the most part as you can't make a call and transmit data simultaneously like you can on GSM, so it would be pointless to have a video conference capable phone that can't actually utilize the functionality.

**boredandtattooed** · #**324** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidinCT

Ah, more productive posts.... It does sound like first grade stuff.

So what ? Old topic that must piss you off somehow....WAAAAAAAAA

Dude, get a life..

Should I get a life, or just bring up dead threads like you?? Im not sure which is worse just yet LOL

**rainfreak** · #**325** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 02:01 PM

Please keep the comments productive and helpful. Otherwise, feel free to read and move on.

**DavidinCT** · #**326** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

Should I get a life, or just bring up dead threads like you?? Im not sure which is worse just yet LOL

That post was put there because of your comments and the post you "deleted" , "flamming" in a very clildish way because someting was "reopend" that you must not like or had personal nightmares about. Do you want to really start this up again ?

Dead, not sure about that but, I guess it's in your mind that it's dead because people are talking about it and were talking about it before I got involved in it. So, it's a big maybe.

Let's stay on topic.

As there was some file in a CDMA phone that just locks a GSM phone and back and forth, does anyone know what file it is, remove it from a image ?

On another side, what if someone took both sets of drivers and dummped it on a phone, what would happen there ? (maybe brick but, might load files needed for the OS but, attempt to load the radio with GSM drivers ? Maybe ?)

Someone claimed on XDA that they might have proof that it is not connected inside the phone, waiting on details there, if true, it's all for not anyway.

Maybe

nerys · #**327** (**permalink**) 09-09-2010, 02:22 PM

From what I understand HTC intentionally and very effectively DISABLED the FM radio at the request of the CDMA providers (namely sprint and verizon)

Someone has stated that HTC said they could enable the FM radio if the provider requested as much. SO in theory it should be able to be made to work but HTC did something VERY effectively to prevent it working.

I think we need some inside help to get that part working.

**DavidinCT** · #**328** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nerys

From what I understand HTC intentionally and very effectively DISABLED the FM radio at the request of the CDMA providers (namely sprint and verizon)

Someone has stated that HTC said they could enable the FM radio if the provider requested as much. SO in theory it should be able to be made to work but HTC did something VERY effectively to prevent it working.

I think we need some inside help to get that part working.

The quotes I heard from HTC and here is, Verizon/Sprit has the power to enable the radio. Also, HTC can too. This makes me believe that it's software, not hardware.

**** IF ***** (for those people who will attempt to flame me) it is SOFTWARE, like most people are saying, why has no one found out why ?

How could "hardware" be disabled in software in WIndows Mobile (it's not like Windows) ? I'm not a programmer, this side I don't know.

I wish we had someone on the inside over at HTC...

But, it's a older phone, yes, sprint still has it but, verizon disco'ed it, so it's getting near to the end of it's shelf life.

I don't of the big guys in this area is going to spend time on a older phone, even if there was a chance this could work...

highc · #**329** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 06:10 AM

If you look to the former posts here you find the answer.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=135

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=249

The initialization calls to the BCM4325 chipset are not made in our TP2 cdma devices at the time of bootup.
We would need to make the correct calls to the microcontroller in a new compiled bootloader file.
Unfortunately the commands are unkown and not published by Qualcomm.

Miami_Son · #**330** (**permalink**) 09-10-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by imnuts

He said that it's identical outside of the cellular radio, which makes sense. If the cellular radio were the same as well, then the GSM models could run on GSM/CDMA as well, which they can't. The only other difference between the GSM and CDMA versions is the lack of a forward facing camera and keyboards, which are different among all TP2s. I'm guessing the front facing camera was left out because it would be useless on a CDMA device for the most part as you can't make a call and transmit data simultaneously like you can on GSM, so it would be pointless to have a video conference capable phone that can't actually utilize the functionality.

Then why did AT$T choose to leave this functionality out of the Tilt 2? Their GSM network support simultaneous voice and data and this feature would have have been awesome. Might have cut into iPhone sales, though. Hmmm...maybe that's the answer.