Verizon TP2 MR3 upgrade is available - Page 7

**horndoctor** · #61 (**permalink**) 12-12-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by aishihikari

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Originally Posted by aliens50

I guess it might help to add, for those who don't know, that you will have to re-lock your phone before flashing the MR2 or MR3, then unlock the phone again to flash back to desired rom.

Is that true? Is this just for Verizon? I am on Sprint.

Sometimes I have to Flash Dance from stock but I have never had to re-lock the phone.

This update is really for Verizon.
IMO
If your radio is working fine then stick with the sprint one.

Tybalt39 · #62 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidinCT

... I'll try IGO8 next, just to see how well it runs (lag and to comare against Tomtom). I still like Tomtom the best over all still (I tried Garman before too)

I just wish GPS worked on the TP2 as good as the Titan

I use iGo8 on the TP2 (Verizon MR2, see sig below). It used to lag a bit, but after overclocking the device (currently at 806.4Mhz) I experience no discernible lag. It is my opinion (FWiW) that the CPU just runs too slow for all of the system overhead combined with the GPS software. Once OC'd, everything is "golden". That said, I may try the MR3 just to be at the current version. Or not...

**DavidinCT** · #63 (**permalink**) 12-14-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tybalt39

I use iGo8 on the TP2 (Verizon MR2, see sig below). It used to lag a bit, but after overclocking the device (currently at 806.4Mhz) I experience no discernible lag. It is my opinion (FWiW) that the CPU just runs too slow for all of the system overhead combined with the GPS software. Once OC'd, everything is "golden". That said, I may try the MR3 just to be at the current version. Or not...

What the real funny thing is, the Titan was a lot slower and with out overclocking, there was no lag AT ALL. Don't think it's the CPU, it's the type of GPS chipset and Tomtom etc is not optimized for it. Tomtom even OC'ed to 806.4mhz (I tried) still lags 2-3 seconds behind.

I wish I knew the diffences here between TP2s, somepeople claim 0 lag on even with tomtom, others have nightmares.

PPCFreak · #64 (**permalink**) 12-15-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidinCT

What the real funny thing is, the Titan was a lot slower and with out overclocking, there was no lag AT ALL. Don't think it's the CPU, it's the type of GPS chipset and Tomtom etc is not optimized for it. Tomtom even OC'ed to 806.4mhz (I tried) still lags 2-3 seconds behind.

I wish I knew the diffences here between TP2s, somepeople claim 0 lag on even with tomtom, others have nightmares.

Before and after MR3 Radio Flash I still have lag with GarminXT.

And OC'd or not does not change the lag.

I agree that it seems that the GPS chip is different between the Titan/Apache and TP2 anhd the GPS software is just not optomized to use the GPS chip that is in the TP2.
I came from the Apache and I would run GarminXT just fine on it. No lag what so ever on the Apache.

**DavidinCT** · #65 (**permalink**) 12-15-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PPCFreak

Before and after MR3 Radio Flash I still have lag with GarminXT.

And OC'd or not does not change the lag.

I agree that it seems that the GPS chip is different between the Titan/Apache and TP2 anhd the GPS software is just not optomized to use the GPS chip that is in the TP2.
I came from the Apache and I would run GarminXT just fine on it. No lag what so ever on the Apache.

GarminXT and Tomtom claimed to have the same lag problems.

I really wish there was a update for Tomtom for a TP2 so I can just go back to the software I paid for (Tomtom's software is free but, the maps cost you)

Tybalt39 · #66 (**permalink**) 12-16-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PPCFreak

Before and after MR3 Radio Flash I still have lag with GarminXT.

And OC'd or not does not change the lag.

I agree that it seems that the GPS chip is different between the Titan/Apache and TP2 anhd the GPS software is just not optomized to use the GPS chip that is in the TP2.
I came from the Apache and I would run GarminXT just fine on it. No lag what so ever on the Apache.

This really does look like it needs a new thread, but...

Is the GPS "chip" known in both the TP2 and the older devices? I seem to recall (when looking at "pucks" for my car PC) that there are different GPS chips and the behave differently from each other. The software had to be set up for each type of "puck". Might this be what is needed here?

**DavidinCT** · #67 (**permalink**) 12-16-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tybalt39

This really does look like it needs a new thread, but...

Is the GPS "chip" known in both the TP2 and the older devices? I seem to recall (when looking at "pucks" for my car PC) that there are different GPS chips and the behave differently from each other. The software had to be set up for each type of "puck". Might this be what is needed here?

This really needs to go else where, I know..

The GPS chip in the Touch Pro 2 has been beaten to death on this site and XDA. It's a known problem, There is not really an option on software for another type of GPS reciver. It's a HTC driver/hardware problem (well ,Broadcom, who makes the GPS/FM/Bluetooth/Wi-FI chipset).

Some phones are effected with it, others not, others don't have it as bad, there is no known fix for it, flashing roms does not help.

The question came up to see if it was addressed in anyway on this upgrade. With just flashing the radio (only thing that was updated on this release from what has been said), in my tests, Tomtom 7 and Navigon 7 showed the same exact results (lag 1 to 3, seconds worse on Tomtom even with the reg fixes).

So, unless anyone has results that fixes lag for Tomtom on a CDMA TP2 with MR3, this subject about GPS is complete and if we need to talk more about it, let's start a new thread.

Now back to your regular scheduled chat...

Any other changes or better perfomance noted with MR3 ??? (hey I'm trying !!!!)

#68 (**permalink**) 12-16-2010, 08:33 PM

Honestly, I haven't noticed a single functional difference between MR2 and MR3. Saying that, I never have experienced the SOD or some of the other anomalies reported here. Does seem a shame that they had to release the radio change as an entire MR though.

**natemcnutty** · #69 (**permalink**) 12-17-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djb680

Honestly, I haven't noticed a single functional difference between MR2 and MR3. Saying that, I never have experienced the SOD or some of the other anomalies reported here. Does seem a shame that they had to release the radio change as an entire MR though.

I believe that in the process of doing our NAND testing for Android, we have identified why SoD actually occurs some of the time. Apparently HTC decided to just use random panels on our devices rather than using the exact same one for all rhodium devices. This means that Verizon's ROM's have the drivers designed specifically for the panels in their devices from HTC, but if you use those drivers on the Sprint device, it may have SoD because it is not optimized for the different panel(s) used in the rhod400...

cuadradoa1 · #70 (**permalink**) 12-19-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnaldo

The documentation says:

The upgrade performs the following improvements:
1) Qualcomm security update

If that's all it is, is it really worth going through the hassle of upgrading?

ive been running it all day today... the radio makes a huge difference in surfing the web. its a lot faster... battery life is great. kudos so far