WP7 no removable storage, no file explorer, no usb hdd, NO COPY AND PASTE

[who?]

The big problem is that iPhone OS 4.0 is rumored to have actual multitasking. Microsoft blew it when they pinned their OS to a long in the tooth version of iPhone OS. This is going to be quite an embarrassment.

Another problem is that there's no reason to not have multitasking when MSFT is requiring such high end specs. As the specs get better, it makes sense to have more functionality, not less, because the phone can actually handle it. But WP7 goes in the wrong direction.

Bring on the Supersonic!

[who?]

Originally Posted by p-slim

is it me or does it seem like winmo is just letting us go a little to easy? They have to know there are certain reasons some people still don't have an iphone and android seems to know those reasons. Microsoft has to realize the majority of ppcgeeks will go with android over wp7 as we can all see windows just wants to have their own iphone. Its as if Microsoft thinks apple is the only competitor. Android is rapidly growing and it didn't build an iphone.

"Letting us go"

"Us" is the nichest of niche markets. Microsoft doesn't care about us and with their flashy, new, locked-down, non-multitasking OS, they rightfully think that they don't need "us" to make the OS actually usable.

[who?]

Originally Posted by mizofizo

I guess I'm the only person on the entire internet who is still looking forward to WP7...

At first I was annoyed about not having a file system and removable storage but then I thought about WHY and it turns out, I don't really need to have them.

The one question I have still is how/if they'll handle PDFs? I know that they plan on having everything sync with the live services but does that include Skydrive?

So what is this magical "why" for not having certain functionality? Don't fall victim to the iPhone Stockholm Syndrome without even having an iPhone or a msPhone yet.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by p-slim

is it me or does it seem like winmo is just letting us go a little to easy? They have to know there are certain reasons some people still don't have an iphone and android seems to know those reasons. Microsoft has to realize the majority of ppcgeeks will go with android over wp7 as we can all see windows just wants to have their own iphone. Its as if Microsoft thinks apple is the only competitor. Android is rapidly growing and it didn't build an iphone.

Originally Posted by Tim Smith

I still plan to get it and am very excited for it. The removable storage thing sucks but hopefully that'll push OEM's to to provide better internal storage options and make that grow. I prefer internal storage and only use an sd card because I have to. The "no file system" thing is stupid to worry about, I see no use for it. You have a file you need to use, open the program it's used by and run it. What's the problem?



I'm not completely buying that, either a misunderstanding or it's a "we don't have this feature built in yet" kind of thing. Really all that needs to be copied is text and links. If they accomplish that I'm happy.

No file explorer means definitely no 3rd party apps or installs. With android or any other system if you want to install apps from somewhere else a file explorer is needed. Even if someone was able to find a way to install custom apps without a file explorer to access those files its useless.

[who?]

Originally Posted by p-slim

No file explorer means definitely no 3rd party apps or installs. With android or any other system if you want to install apps from somewhere else a file explorer is needed. Even if someone was able to find a way to install custom apps without a file explorer to access those files its useless.

Come on. Someone will figure out a way to access the file tree. If they did it in the iPhone they can do it in the mPhone.

But why waste the effort? Android here I come.

[nrfitchett4]

i remember them saying that was going to be a third version, more for professionals. that is the one i will wait for and see if they continue the full lockdown.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4

i remember them saying that was going to be a third version, more for professionals. that is the one i will wait for and see if they continue the full lockdown.

all of the major conferences have passed, MIX10 was the last one that ended with the developer kits and tools. I highly doubt windows has anything else up their sleeve.

[Compusmurf]

Come on folks. It's a Zune HD with a phone. They've been telling folks for ages that their intent is to combine the 2 into 1 device and UI.

I have a Zune HD. It's really good for what it is. Music player with a very nice screen and simple interface. Apps work, but ARE very simple types. It also does not multitask. No cut n paste, nothing. Go to your local Big Box store and play with the Zune HD to get a really good feel of how the OS will work.

For what it is, it'll be great. It'll win a lot of lemmings, errr, consumers over from the fruit phone. They are going to the KISS principle here. For that 1 person here that doesn' t know, it's Keep It Stupidly Simple (or other variants).

You're not going to see custom roms, tweaks, hacks or anything else for a good long while, some things, probably not at all.

For the power user geeker who wants to do it all, WP7, like the fruit phone, just won't cut it. For the average consumer, they'll be all over it.

Where does that leave us? 3 options I see.

Stick with Win Mob 6.x and support ourselves. Which I'm sure many, many of us will do.

Palm's WEBOS, if they manage to release a much nicer phone than the Pre/Pixi. It's a really nice OS, it's being actively developed, hacked and having new apps every day. Pity the hardware isn't top notch tho.

Google's android. It's being actively developed, hacked and programs being written. Only catch here is the phone manu's are slow to release the updates on their hardware.

Honestly Google and Palm just have to be throwing parties at MS's decision here. Heaven knows, I'm not. I have a lot of $ wrapped up in apps for Win Mo.

I have a Palm Pre, I like the OS very much, just don't care for the hardware.

My wife has an android phone, I like the OS very much, but she's been waiting forever it seems for the manu to release an update that's been out for many, many months...

I suspect myself, I'll be jumping ship to android.

[bkrodgers]

Originally Posted by who?

Come on. Someone will figure out a way to access the file tree. If they did it in the iPhone they can do it in the mPhone.

But why waste the effort? Android here I come.

That's exactly my thought. If there's a platform out there that supports the openness and flexibility I find attractive, I want to support it.

People may well hack WP7 and do some really cool things with it. But if MS is that hell bent on controlling the platform, I worry that another way they'll be mimicking the iPhone is by working to re-lock phones and otherwise make things difficult. I don't have time for those kind of games.

[kid_kris]

May you think missing multitasking is bad..now there is new that there is no copy-paste in WM7..going back to stone ages..lol