Sero plan possible with rooting??

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by teddat

Of course its not the same. 2 different things. I prefer the bar but I drink scotch.

but back to the phones. For all intents and purposes i own the phones, sprint didn't subsidize them. I just use their network. they make money from the service. I use 200 txt a month. i use about a 1GB of data regardless of device. I have to switch plans to use a device that has the same network utilization.

life isn't fair. i didn't dispute that.

You said it, you use THERE NETWORK.......

You plain and simple have to pay to play, if thats what they want to charge for you to use that phone on THERE NETWORK than thats what your going to have to pay. you can debate it till the cow comes home but its not going to change a single thing.

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by teddat

There? where? I wasn't debating. I'm just pointing out I own both devices, Not on contract. They use the same resources to the network. There's the facts. People can judge.

Excuse my Typo, Their network.

Think of it like Insurance if you drive a ford escort your monthly charge is going to be nominal, if you drive a Bugatti your going to have a huge premium. they run on the same gas and get from point A to point B in the same way.

You are paying for the Premium device and sprint know's it.

Would you expect to have the same premium's between a ford escort and a Bugatti even though they do the same thing?

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by teddat

For me the TP2 is still more than a capable device. Its still a EVDO Rev A device just like the Evo. Sometimes the TP2 speedtests are higher than the evo. My usage of the network remains the same. Roughly 200 txt and 1gb a month.

I own both devices and on no contract, sprint didn't have to subsidize my purchases.

We can compare apples and oranges, lunches, clubs and bars, and cars. but I really think every car regardless of it being a ford fiesta or a lamborghini murcielago lp670-4 superveloce that passes the same bridge should pay the same toll. Does it sound fair? To me it does.

Your not paying extra for the service your paying extra for the Premium device, its a luxury tax plain and simple. it's defiantly OK to not agree with it but your not paying extra for the service you paying extra for the luxury.

Edit:
I am not trying to defend it just stating the Fact of the change and charge. it's just how it goes, Change suck's especially if you where on a super cheap plan, but we can not live in the past forever as time goes that is just how it works.

[u8myfoood]

That analogy doesn't work even if you drive a prius vs a bugatti veyron, the gas stations don't charge you more per gallon for the same gas. the amount of gas is similar to amount of minutes, the more you use the more you pay, but the rate per minute is still the same, not different. It's more like Hey, here's the car you bought, but you are only allowed to use these set roads to drive on them, sure it can be driven on other ones, but we wont let you.

[mikee4fun]

Originally Posted by stangboy68

I was curious. Now that the evo has been rooted is it possible to somehow activate it on the sero plan?

If you root yourself on a stick, then it will be possible to activate. Give it a try and report back...

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by teddat

Its discrimination plain and simple. I know its a luxury, the entrance fee to I/O was my cost. Again, I own both devices outright, everything is already paid for, taxes included. Should one of them get flushed down the toilet, the other has the same burden on the network. 200txt and 1gb is exactly that.

We don't tolerate discrimination in humans. No race should have to pay more for riding the bus or crossing the bridge. Some business practices are allowed price discrimination. Its not a perfect world. Some companies get away with it. Actually all companies get away with it in some form or another.

How is it Discrimination? They are not making you change your plan on your TP2, they are not making you use The EVO phone. that would be YOUR choice. it's soooooooooo simple ether use it or don't. no one is forcing you to upgrade, you decide to use it, you know what you are going to have to pay to use it. Remember we live in america, its call FREE ENTERPRISE. You do have the RIGHT to choose not to use it. You do have the RIGHT to complain about it. It was YOUR choice to pay full price for the phone. It was well publicized about what the requirements where going to be for a plan for that phone. Your argument just does not seem logical to me.

[flyers2114]

Originally Posted by teddat

I agree its fraud. TP2 I bought off contract and EVO is a google I/O phone. I use the TP2 just as heavily as the EVO. so my burden to them and the network is just the same to everyone. For them to force people off old plans to new phones and contracts is much the same as someone taking your lunch money just because you want to sit at a new table but eating the same meal.

I'm not sure why they should discriminate me on what phone i should use with what plan. I've been a long time sprint subscriber over 8 years and no plans of leaving.

Originally Posted by teddat

Its discrimination plain and simple. I know its a luxury, the entrance fee to I/O was my cost. Again, I own both devices outright, everything is already paid for, taxes included. Should one of them get flushed down the toilet, the other has the same burden on the network. 200txt and 1gb is exactly that.

We don't tolerate discrimination in humans. No race should have to pay more for riding the bus or crossing the bridge. Some business practices are allowed price discrimination. Its not a perfect world. Some companies get away with it. Actually all companies get away with it in some form or another.

Discrimination......................lmfao......you have put up a fail argument

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by u8myfoood

That analogy doesn't work even if you drive a prius vs a bugatti veyron, the gas stations don't charge you more per gallon for the same gas. the amount of gas is similar to amount of minutes, the more you use the more you pay, but the rate per minute is still the same, not different. It's more like Hey, here's the car you bought, but you are only allowed to use these set roads to drive on them, sure it can be driven on other ones, but we wont let you.

lol, Gas is a commodity, just like the energy you use to charge you phone. you get charged the same for Electricity to charge you Phone so that just fails there, vs Insurance is a service that you pay for, and depending on the car you have just like the phone they have the ability to charge you for a premium. the EVO is the latest and greatest they can charge more for it because its just that the latest and greatest.

Just like how they started making people get Data plans when they bought smart phones. people did not like it but you know what if they really wanted it they paid for it. again if you want to use something on their network than you are going to have to pay what they charge. there network is not a public network, they own it, its there, so they can charge what every they want to.

Roads are Public anyone with a license is allowed to drive on them you have to follow the rule but you can drive anywhere on them you want to. if you come to a private road the owner of that property can charge you what ever they feel like but you have the Choice to not use that road just like you have the choice to not use sprints service.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by u8myfoood

That analogy doesn't work even if you drive a prius vs a bugatti veyron, the gas stations don't charge you more per gallon for the same gas. the amount of gas is similar to amount of minutes, the more you use the more you pay, but the rate per minute is still the same, not different. It's more like Hey, here's the car you bought, but you are only allowed to use these set roads to drive on them, sure it can be driven on other ones, but we wont let you.

To explain it better..the USA is not a free country...its a free* country

[gTen]

Originally Posted by teddat

ha vadar pic. you have a folder of these pics for your arguments?

Look. The point I was trying to make that no one seemed read is: I own device xxxxx and device zzzzz. I paid for them. they both would use sprint's services equally. The network burden depends on me as a user of how much data I consume and calls I make. If you say its fair, great! business as usual for everyone.

Simply put..same reason why you can't use a verizon phone on sprint...cause sprint said so..sprint wants more money..and at the rate ppl are buying they can get away with it.