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Old 08-22-2010, 01:05 AM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

Ive had the EVO for 2 days now, was wanting to wait for the EPIC but my wife wanted the evo as well so i wasnt going to be stuck with an out of date BB and her with a new phone so i bought myself one as well..... I bought mine around 5 in the afternoon and right out of the box i couldnt put it down, i plugged it into the car charger on the way home since it was in the yellow, got home played some more with it on the home charger and went to sleep hoping for a fully charged EVO when i awoke for work... to my dismay within the first 2 hours it had dropped to half battery with light internet adn texting and 2 calls!!! at this point i was kicking myself in the ass since i had read over and over on reviews that the EVO had battery power issues. I hooked it into the car charger in my work vehicle until i got off work. Arrived home playing with the phone just a bit all the while reading up everywhere i could about tweaks and tricks to conserve battery and I stumbled upon this thread...
My EVO came out of the box with 2.2 Froyo so I thought ok the battery wont be an issue since there was alot of chatter on the net about Froyo fixing the issue but it didnt. At this point I run and automatic task killer, all sync to apps turned down or off, GPS off and i run WiFi at home from my router, did the CDMA PRL check, and still nothing was improving my battery life. This morning after reading this thread I did all the steps, turned my phone on and decided to put it to the test. Since i was off today and had nothing planned but a lazy relaxing day, I made it a point to stay on the phone constantly, texting, talking, surfing the net, downloading apps etc. etc. to see if this trick had worked. This all began around Noon and the battery finally gave out to the point of shutting itself off around 9:30. This to some may not seem like a long time but keep in mind i made it a point to use it non stop except for eating within this time frame. THe phone was only Idle for minutes at a time... I was bound and determined to put the phone thru the paces and i hope it stays like this and i wont have to trade it in for the EPIC because the more and more i look at the EPIC the less it looks appealing to me.

I do however admit that not giving the phone a first full charge without disruption probably was my first mistake. I'm guessing this trick will ReTrain the Battery and phone to see full charge like it shouldve from the get go. So for any future EVO owners , Don't play with it right out of the box REFRAIN from it!!. Take it directly to a power source plug it in and let it get a Full first charge, power it down and then as mentioned in the first post plug it back in until the light goes green!!!...lol

I'll keep my fingers crossed that from here on out the battery with normal use will get me through the day without camping beside a power outlet...lol

Sorry for the long first post but i just finished a 16oz Red Bull and had some energy to burn...
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:47 AM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

Training batteries is a hold over from the NiCad days. It does not apply to Lithium based batteries. Actually, you never want to totally discharge an LiOn or LiPo. Best bet is keep it charged as much as possible and avoid high temperatures.

Read around the site and you will find people getting much battery life by managing the power drain. EVO comes out of the box with "every light in the house" on. A few tricks will show you how to control that.

As for me, I bought the Seidio 3500mAh battery. It is a LiPo rather than LiOn which, along with the greater AmpHr capacity, makes all the difference. I actually had a big fight with them when the battery arrived since it said LiOn on the silk-screen but they assured me it was LiPo inside. Since that sounded like BS to me, I demanded a full refund, including S&H. After some haggling and threats, they acquiesced. While waiting for the RMA, I did some testing and I was able to ascertain it was LiPo.

What is nice is that I ignore battery drain. I am am avid movie watcher. I took my wife shopping today and while she wondered around the shops for hours, I watched the entire Donnie Darko movie. I don't even monitor battery level anymore since I have NEVER gone under 50% between access to charges. I do ride a Harley and have a charger setup in my saddle bag. If you don't mind increasing the thickness of your phone to that of a Mogul and adding the weight of one battery, I recommend it. I still carry mine in my top pocket. With the stock battery, I would leave my desk with my phone, go to a meeting for an hour and when I returned and plugged the phone into the charger, it would be at 67% or worse.

Seidio should pay me for writing this!!
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:03 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

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While you are at it, place the phone on your chest and turn it COUNTER clockwise 3 times.

This is stupid....almost sounds like an apple fanboy made this up to **** with us. If this is really there idea for a fix...wow htc.
you could always tell the apple fanbuoy to eliminate his dropped calls, all he hasta do is stand on his head while facing east, stik his thum in his tukis and use his kickstand so he can see his phone and make his call, oh wait, i forgot, they dont have kikstands lol
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Old 08-22-2010, 03:18 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

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Training batteries is a hold over from the NiCad days. It does not apply to Lithium based batteries. Actually, you never want to totally discharge an LiOn or LiPo. Best bet is keep it charged as much as possible and avoid high temperatures.
while lithium batteries don't need trained, the devices/software controlling the charge often does. also draining the battery in the phone will NOT fully discharge the battery, rather the level drops to low to power the cpu. draining fully with the phone is simply telling the hardware & o/s what the real 'low' level is.
but yes, lithium likes juice and keeping on the charger when ever possible will provide the longest life to the battery.
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

how much was the battery and cover from seidio? I used to like the company but it gets expensive souping up each phone that comes out.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:20 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

No, You don't need to take the battery out.. Just unplug, shut off and plug in again.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:03 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

The batt and cover come as one product. I think it was $69 plus S&H. Another company was selling the same for $10 less. I bought from them first and did not get the same improvement. I called and they claimed to be Seiodio resellers.

Here is what I think. Seidio passed the LiOns onto 3rd party customers when the LiPos came in, with the 3rd Party company being aware or not. I want LIPOs. The chemistry is far superior though you must use high quality chargers. (cheap ones can cause explosions!)

I would pay the full price and buy from Seidio.

Like I said, I think about battery life about the same way I think of my car battery life.
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Old 08-24-2010, 02:09 AM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

hmmm that's interesting, thanks for the info.

But what charger would we use? The OEM charger?
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:59 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

man I tried the charging method and my phone never stayed green when i turned it off..i kept repeating the process 10x and still no luck i gave up!..any suggestions?
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:20 PM
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Re: Possible battery fix from HTC!

eh, you need to let it finish. It could take hours until its 100% charged.
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