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finsmaniac02 · #**841** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 12:20 PM

Thanks! this post helped me so much.
I am a total Android Noob (used to do a lot of WinMo flashing) and last night was my first experience rooting. I REALLY wish I would have just rooted while it was easy instead of waiting and doing the OTA update. I have learned my lesson now lol.
Question:
So this method puts RA's recovery on the device, is there any downside to switching to ClockworkMod's recovery? I went ahead and bought "Rom Manager" and didn't realize it would not work with this recovery. Any thoughts on the differences between the two and if its safe to just let Rom Manager d/l and flash the clockwork recovery?

Thanks!

**FastRX8** · #**842** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by finsmaniac02

Thanks! this post helped me so much.
I am a total Android Noob (used to do a lot of WinMo flashing) and last night was my first experience rooting. I REALLY wish I would have just rooted while it was easy instead of waiting and doing the OTA update. I have learned my lesson now lol.
Question:
So this method puts RA's recovery on the device, is there any downside to switching to ClockworkMod's recovery? I went ahead and bought "Rom Manager" and didn't realize it would not work with this recovery. Any thoughts on the differences between the two and if its safe to just let Rom Manager d/l and flash the clockwork recovery?

Thanks!

Rom Manager is perfectly fine.
Also, if you open Rom Manager, you can scroll to the bottom and there is an option to "Flash Alternate Recovery" (RA Recovery v1.7.0.1)
I find Rom Manager is easier to backup/restore, but I also like to clear the Dalvik-cache every time I flash and the Rom Manager app does not do that. If you go into the ClockworkMod recovery screen there is an option to clear Dalvik in the Advanced section, but I'm pretty sure the app itself doesn't clear Dalvik when you flash a rom. Even if you check to clear cache/factory reset, I don't think it's referring to the Dalvik cache.

**Boo Boo** · #**843** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 12:37 PM

I just installed the shipped rom did only the first ota than left itas is.

I am curently tethering on ft myers beach on my ipad. Sending you all the love one can and still not be gay.

And i had a cold beer and am onto my margarita as we speak.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

1uk3 · #**844** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyboi6829

are you kidding me?!!?!!1 i spent 2 hrs last night trying to root my phone. finally got it done at like 1:30 am. ughhh....
well at least its goin to be easy for other people to do it now

4 hours here buddy. still this is pretty sweet

finsmaniac02 · #**845** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FastRX8

Rom Manager is perfectly fine.
Also, if you open Rom Manager, you can scroll to the bottom and there is an option to "Flash Alternate Recovery" (RA Recovery v1.7.0.1)
I find Rom Manager is easier to backup/restore, but I also like to clear the Dalvik-cache every time I flash and the Rom Manager app does not do that. If you go into the ClockworkMod recovery screen there is an option to clear Dalvik in the Advanced section, but I'm pretty sure the app itself doesn't clear Dalvik when you flash a rom. Even if you check to clear cache/factory reset, I don't think it's referring to the Dalvik cache.

If you flash alternative recovery, can you still use rom manager to backup/restore? As of now if wont let me do backup because it says I need clockworkmod recovery. Also the flash alternative recovery part is greyed out and says none is available (even though I think doing your process for rooting puts RA on it)

How much easier is it to backup/restore then doing a manual NAND backup? I have been reading that if you backup/restore with rom manager you MUST stick with that because NAND backup is not compatible. I also read that a lot of the times the Roms that it can d/l are outdated.

Those 2 things make me wonder if I should just do everything manually with what seems to be the "better" recovery (RA). If I could keep using RA and still use Rom Manager for backup/recovery (but then have to flash roms manually) that would be acceptable too I guess.

Thanks so much for your help!

htcvogue111 · #**846** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 01:02 PM

I just got my EvO..wondering if I should apply OTA update before rooting or apply it after rooting... Sorry if this has been posted but I searched and came up empty.

**FastRX8** · #**847** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finsmaniac02

If you flash alternative recovery, can you still use rom manager to backup/restore? As of now if wont let me do backup because it says I need clockworkmod recovery. Also the flash alternative recovery part is greyed out and says none is available (even though I think doing your process for rooting puts RA on it)

How much easier is it to backup/restore then doing a manual NAND backup? I have been reading that if you backup/restore with rom manager you MUST stick with that because NAND backup is not compatible. I also read that a lot of the times the Roms that it can d/l are outdated.

Those 2 things make me wonder if I should just do everything manually with what seems to be the "better" recovery (RA). If I could keep using RA and still use Rom Manager for backup/recovery (but then have to flash roms manually) that would be acceptable too I guess.

Thanks so much for your help!

Backups from Rom Manager are not compatible w/ manual restore from RA Recovery.
If you backup using Rom Manager, you need to restore using Rom Manager. If you manually backup using RA Recovery, you need to manually restore using RA Recovery.

The option is grayed out because you can't use any Rom Manager features until you 1st select the top option of Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. After that, the options will be available. You can then select to flash RA Recovery and you'll still be able to use Rom Manager.
The rooting process did put RA Recovery on there. Rom Manager doesn't see it until you do their recovery then flash back to RA Recovery through Rom Manager. Keep in mind if you use Rom Manager to put RA Recovery on, none of the Rom Manager features will actually work. It requires ClockworkMod recovery to do anything.

You won't know how much easier one is VS the other until you try. And roms in Rom Manager are as up-to-date as the rom chef's make it. The rom chefs have a way of updating what rom shows up in your list of available roms. Nothing to do w/ the app itself. The chefs need to update their info.

**iknowsquat** · #**848** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htcvogue111

I just got my EvO..wondering if I should apply OTA update before rooting or apply it after rooting... Sorry if this has been posted but I searched and came up empty.

NEVER apply an OTA after root!
root first then flash a ROM with a root–safe version of the OTA software.

wrxyboy · #**849** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 01:59 PM

i was able to do the root last night but i wanted to check and see if i have the latest wimax setup applied. When i launch the adb i get the $ instead of #. So do i have to apply the root again?

**FastRX8** · #**850** (**permalink**) 07-08-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wrxyboy

i was able to do the root last night but i wanted to check and see if i have the latest wimax setup applied. When i launch the adb i get the $ instead of #. So do i have to apply the root again?

For some reason, when you're on 1.47.651.1 you get the $ first.
Type "su" and hit enter. You should get a Superuser Permission window on your phone to "Allow" or "Deny" then you're good to go. You should then see #.

Not sure why that happens after 1.47