Apache WM6 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0) - UPDATED 20071217 - Page 107

**gguruusa** · #**1061** (**permalink**) 01-19-2008, 11:57 AM

The first place to start is to load a unmodified kitchen ROM, and see what that does. If it works, slowly add in your changes until you recreate your problem. If it doesn't work, try a stock carrier rom.

I answered someone's pagepool question in the post right after it. There isn't any good place to go for advice on where to set it - it all depends on what you're trying to do with your PPC.

jsavin · #**1062** (**permalink**) 01-19-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bilson

... I recently received a replacement 6700 so I have a spare nonworking 6700 for parts. Will update after taking phone apart.

... Which reminds me -- is there a disassembly guide or service manual available somewhere?

bilson · #**1063** (**permalink**) 01-19-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jsavin

... Which reminds me -- is there a disassembly guide or service manual available somewhere?

Replaced the speaker and it works again. Does not appear to be a bug, at least in my case.
The How To Disassemble Guide with pictures can be found here. Excellent guide, just follow directions. Link does not work because it puts a GRIN in it so copy this to your address bar:
wiki.ppcgeeks.com/index.php?title=How_To

isassemble_your_6700#XV_67 00_Assembly_Pictorial.2FTutorial_v1.0_by_Sixftunda
REPLACE Grin with : D (do not type a space between them) after copied to address bar.

If this helped you please give me Credit Points by Pressing the little scale in the upper right hand corner next to the thread count. Thanks

jsavin · #**1064** (**permalink**) 01-19-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

The first place to start is to load a unmodified kitchen ROM, and see what that does. If it works, slowly add in your changes until you recreate your problem. If it doesn't work, try a stock carrier rom.

Thanks. I was afraid that would be the answer, but that's what I get for life on the edge. At least it's the weekend and I'll have time to work on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa

I answered someone's pagepool question in the post right after it. There isn't any good place to go for advice on where to set it - it all depends on what you're trying to do with your PPC.

Sorry -- must have missed your reply. I did find a post on the Microsoft Windows Mobile blog that talked about PagePool a bit in the comments, but the Microsoft guy repeatedly fell back on "it doesn't matter because it's not user-configurable".

What I've found over the last week is that generally bigger is better for running more or larger (executable) programs. This might seem odd since there's less memory available, but the PagePool which is used for loading program bits, isn't reported in the Memory applet. It's there, and being used for program runtime, but isn't available for program runtime storage (malloc).

Anyway, there's obviously going to be a point of diminishing returns. I find that I typically have about 2 or 3 MB free when using a PagePool of 14, and I tend to run a lot of stuff: two or three big today plugins, QuickMenu, POutlook and Egress all the time, and then while driving MortPlayer (for listening to audiobooks, podcasts and sometimes music), and sometimes a mapping app, which will be one of Google Maps, Live Search, or TomTom, depending on what I'm doing.

Occasionally I'll even run one or two more apps, but usually the above is about my limit.

With the stock WM5 ROM, I was able to do all of the above, but when I switched to Helmi_c's, I started having trouble. As I said, initially I used a smalmler PagePool, and when I flashed the last time, I decided to tryt a higher value (mostly because of reading between the lines in that MSFT blog post).

Hope this helps someone else.

Now to the phone ring debug loop. I'll post back with results if I get it figured out.

Thanks again, gguruusa! You've been *super* helpful!

Edit: I was actually using a PagePool of 14, not 16. And still no fix for the no-ring problem... Working on it...

jsavin · #**1065** (**permalink**) 01-19-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bilson

Replaced the speaker and it works again. Does not appear to be a bug, at least in my case.

Hmmm. Sounds like a PITA. Software problems are almost always easier -- or at least fixing software problems is less likely to have dire unintended consequences.

Glad you got it working, but too bad it doesn't help me much...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilson

The How To Disassemble Guide with pictures can be found here. Excellent guide, just follow directions. Link does not work because it puts a GRIN in it so copy this to your address bar:
wiki.ppcgeeks.com/index.php?title=How_To

isassemble_your_6700#XV_67 00_Assembly_Pictorial.2FTutorial_v1.0_by_Sixftunda
REPLACE Grin with : D (do not type a space between them) after copied to address bar.

If this helped you please give me Credit Points by Pressing the little scale in the upper right hand corner next to the thread count. Thanks

Awesome -- thanks for the link! Here's a clickable version in case anyone else needs it: http://tinyurl.com/2dx4bl

Kicked your 'rep for you.

Cheers, -Jake

tiono · #**1066** (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:14 AM

anyone can help me...i have cook my rom success but why i can not surfing internet with wifi...what wrong with my rom!!!

**guitardoc64** · #**1067** (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tiono

anyone can help me...i have cook my rom success but why i can not surfing internet with wifi...what wrong with my rom!!!

Check Settings/connections. Problem is probably there.

bullocks · #**1068** (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 05:30 AM

eh im thinking of giving this a shot later on today when i wake up hehe..

just a couple questions tho. how many things should u check mark after the default ones are set in the kitchen? i've read if u check mark too many youll get errors. another thing, is their a link to the WM5 that im using with telus right now that i could go back to? do i need to back up my contacts before i make this switch? On the toolbar where it says RUU what should be selected? Also, for boot splash and main splash should u pick what carier you have i noticed that main splash says default unless you change it.

i was just wondering how do u get into "bootloader", and how do u do a "soft reset", and "hard reset"....thank you to whoever takes the time to answer these questions. i am a n00b to PDA phones, and just grabbed this 6700 a week ago!

- bullocks

**gguruusa** · #**1069** (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 05:54 AM

Read the first 3 pages of GA. Medics "Tutorial on Upgrading your ROM to WM6" thread, stickied at the top of this forum, for answers to most of your questions.

You don't have to select your carrier splash screens - you can set them to whatever you want (including your carrier's, if you like them)

As to how many things to check, that all depends on what you are checking. It's pretty much trial and error right now. There's a new version of BuildOS in the works that goes a long way towards resolving this issue, but it's not available for general use yet.

bullocks · #**1070** (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

Read the first 3 pages of GA. Medics "Tutorial on Upgrading your ROM to WM6" thread, stickied at the top of this forum, for answers to most of your questions.

You don't have to select your carrier splash screens - you can set them to whatever you want (including your carrier's, if you like them)

eh i seen that RIGHT after i posted this. reading now!

quick question, when u bootload or w.e and u have to press the reset button u gotta get a pen or something to push it?