Warez Vs. Tethering - Page 21

**MoonZ*BabysH** · #**201** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sorge

Well Phone As Modem is included in my employee plan, so I guess that makes me ok

yes you all have seen it here first, The sarcastic clap!!! yaayyy!

**schettj** · #**202** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

posting the ICS hack is no differnet than supplyng the means to do so with any other software thats supposed to be paid for..

ICS is free. There IS NO HACK.

Changing the connection name used from PAM to SPRINT does nothing. It works (and is just as trackable) exactly the same either way.

CRACKs crack commercial software that must be paid for and registered to use.

Changing a registry key so a built-in app uses one or another connection name to dial #777 does nothing at all.

crazychef · #**203** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiser78

The .inf file that differentiates the modem link from an Active Sync connection over USB is just a driver file for a different function of the phone. The driver is included with the CD in the box. It's not a driver you only get when you subscribe to a PAM plan. The computer doesn't see the phone as a phone when it's in "modem mode" so that why the difference. It wasn't designed to require a different driver so that the carriers could require a special program or plan to tether.

again where does it say MS gives you the end user to use as u see fit.. because it seems to say the carrier can restrict your use to this "internet sharing" if they want too and provide it to you as an option.. where does it say, your carrier must allow this for free or they cant charge you

**schettj** · #**204** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

theres a million and 1 TP users that will argue they could not connect out of the box without either, ICS reg edit, wmwifi, pdanet... so i think thats all the proof we need on that.. do you need me to do a live(via qik) hard reset on my phone then connect it to my laptop, turn on the bone stock ics and watch it NOT WORK??

Well, it's working for me (Sprint). What carrier are you on?

crazychef · #**205** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by schettj

ICS is free. There IS NO HACK.

Changing the connection name used from PAM to SPRINT does nothing. It works (and is just as trackable) exactly the same either way.

CRACKs crack commercial software that must be paid for and registered to use.

Changing a registry key so a built-in app uses one or another connection name to dial #777 does nothing at all.

except the changes that do nothing at all, magically allow your phone to connect, which doesnt happen with the included free support software that MS gives us... you cant get access out of the box without changing PAM over to sprint which is hacking sprints system into making it believe you using nothing more than your standard data connection when in fact your manipulating something to work around instead of just paying for the service...

z28marols1 · #**206** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:19 AM

not to help his point any buy ICS did not work on my TP, mogul or apache out of the box, so it seems to be hit or miss.

cruiser78 · #**207** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

again where does it say MS gives you the end user to use as u see fit.. because it seems to say the carrier can restrict your use to this "internet sharing" if they want too and provide it to you as an option.. where does it say, your carrier must allow this for free or they cant charge you

It doesn't. My point is that the .inf file is JUST a driver and a technical point that you can't use the driver installed with ActiveSync to use the modem but it is included in the box on a CD. It is a hardware issue and that is all. Microsoft didn't do that to help the carriers differentiate between usage types. That seems to be what you were trying to use that point to say which isn't the case. The only relevance that file has to tethering is that you need it to tether over USB. That's as far as that goes. It doesn't help prove or disprove your point. That's all I was trying to point out with that.

z28marols1 · #**208** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

can u post keygens, cracks,serials, or posting anything about getting paid software for free??? your not actually providing the cracked software, just the means to do so.. so im guessing the laws that apply here, apply in my arument as well.. posting the ICS hack is no differnet than supplyng the means to do so with any other software thats supposed to be paid for..

Copyright laws do not apply to breach of contract. not in any way. Posting cracks or other ways to circumvent a software built in copy protection is illegal by copyright law. This cannot be applied to theft of service or contracts.

crazychef · #**209** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by z28marols1

Copyright laws do not apply to breach of contract. not in any way. Posting cracks or other ways to circumvent a software built in copy protection is illegal by copyright law. This cannot be applied to theft of service or contracts.

how are we not "posting a crack or other way to circumvent a software", in this case the software is ICS?

**Genjinaro** · #**210** (**permalink**) 02-23-2009, 10:39 AM

Right, as long as it does not steal the service, & it doesn't legally you are safe.

If a PAM plan didnt require an exsisting connction (and it does) you are made to use a HOW and thats it.

PAM offers no data in itself only the means to use the existing service.
By compliance, you are not restricted to use an alternate service if you have means (legally).

For example if you have a phone plan that restricts long distance call but you use skype to do this over the carriers data, you can legally make this call. You are using a legal alternative method.