Kinoma media player

[Charles@Kinoma]

Originally Posted by vwman18

I love this program. I mostly use it for streaming media via Orb and various podcasts. My biggeste complaint? NO BLUETOOTH SUPPORT!!

Kinoma Play supports A2DP (Bluetooth audio streaming) if your phone does, so we'd love to know more.

(Kinoma Play doesn't yet support AVRCP, the Bluetooth remote control protocol.)

-- Charles Wiltgen

[vwman18]

Originally Posted by Charles@Kinoma

Kinoma Play supports A2DP (Bluetooth audio streaming) if your phone does, so we'd love to know more.

(Kinoma Play doesn't yet support AVRCP, the Bluetooth remote control protocol.)

-- Charles Wiltgen

What information do you need? I desperately want this to work, so I'm all for troubleshooting.

I'll give an example of how I use the phone. I get the phone and my Pioneer DEH-P7900BT head unit paired (the Pioneer supports both A2DP and AVRCP). Then, get a stream playing from Orb or the web played by either TCMP or Windows Media Player. I now get music played through my car stereo. Maybe that's the AVRCP magic? I have no idea.

[Charles@Kinoma]

Originally Posted by vwman18

Then, get a stream playing from Orb or the web played by either TCMP or Windows Media Player. I now get music played through my car stereo. Maybe that's the AVRCP magic?

That's A2DP, and Kinoma Play (and Kinoma FreePlay) supports it too.

-- Charles Wiltgen

[slightlyevolved]

here's a fun one for you. I downloaded the free version to give it a try. While it works well, I agree that we need to have it only look at certain folders. Here's the strange part. (and to be honest, I'd love for it to work) I am probably one of the few that actually use the sprint music store. kinoma actually loads the .koz files and will play them despite the DRM! It is glitchy playback, but there. Honestly, I would love to be able to buy songs with the music store and play them inside of kinoma.

Thought I might give a heads up since I don't think many on here use the Sprint Music Store.

so far, good work on it. And good luck with that bug! I would make it at the very least, scan only folders named Music, Pictures, and Video.

[myn]

FYI, an Update was released Sept 5th:

http://blog.kinoma.com/2008/09/kinom...now-available/

« Kinoma Play wins “Best Windows Mobile Media Player”

Kinoma Play update now available

The first post-launch Kinoma Play update is now available!
You’ll be notified automatically. Alternatively, go the opening menu, show the menu pod and select Player > Check for Updates to update on-demand.

• More “finger-friendly” for phones with hi-resolution (VGA+) screens, including the HTC Touch Diamond
• On touch phones, the menu pod supports left and right swipes to move between menus
• Norwegian language support
• Improved support for phones with both slide-out QUERTY keyboards and phone keypads
• Improved support for resuming video and audio streamed with Orb (requires Orb v2.01.0017 or newer)
• Improved compatibility with podcast feeds hosted by FeedBurner
• Improved Google Video compatibility
• Correct presentation of multi-part Audible audiobooks

[jmorton10]

Just great.

We get "Norwegian language support", but no mention of the scanning bug...........

~John

[stifiling]

I finally checked it out. this program is pretty nice. replaces a few progs i'm using and as we all know the least installed to the phone the better. for me it's replacing, tcpmp, pocket player, youtubeplay, and htc album.

one thing i wish it could do though is...like windows media player on the pc, have your whole mp3/wma/wav etc. library in one column...and as your browsing through, when u wanna hear a song 'next'...double click it and enqueue it as the 'next song to play' in your playlist. like creating a playlist as you go.

don't know of a ppc media app that could do this, but that would be pretty nice.

[jmorton10]

Well, I recently redid my system from scratch (I actually used an entirely different phone, but it was the same thing "a Verizon XV6800" as the original) & there was NO WAY I was reinstalling a bloated, memory hogging, buggy app like Kinoma on the new setup.

I flashed the stock Verizon XV6800 to radio 3.42.50 & ROM to dcd 3.2.6 so I now had WM 6.1 & a working internal GPS as opposed to the external Bluetooth setup I was using. After implementing all the GPS tricks with GPST & DMrouter etc, I get a consistent 6-8 satellite lock within 4 or 5 seconds in CoPilot Live 7, Google maps etc etc etc

The new system is fast as hell & has 21 MB of free memory at startup & even running Slingbox Mobile I still have 12 MB of free memory.

With the original WM version of Kinoma, I was getting out of memory errors even when the system had 14 MB free before it started that useless scanning "feature".

I had no idea that a new version had come out two days ago, I just happened to stumble across a posting about it & went to the Kinoma site to check it out.

I saw that some of the bugs that certain people (me) where complaining about had reportedly been fixed & others had not. I figured maybe I should give it another chance as I did pay for it & I really wanted it to work for me.

I did a new BU of the perfectly working system with SPB BU so if I was as unhappy with the new version as I was with the original, I could do a hard reset & restore the BU & be rid of it again.........

I have been playing with the new version of Kinoma for a while now & it is certainly a HUGE improvement from the original. Unfortunately, there is still no way to turn off the scanning & yes it still steals ALL the file associations without asking permission (this is a major serious programming flaw IMHO)

Other than that, the app is much better. The picture directory now actually contains the pics on my device & none of the 1700 GPS gifs etc that the original version showed as pics. The scanning now seems to exclude scanning from program apps etc so it doesn't take as long. It still irritates the hell out of me that if you open Kinoma, wait for it to scan, change absolutely NOTHING & then shut it down that five minutes later when you open it again it still insists on scanning once again (this is beyond ridiculous IMHO)

The new version seems to make it through the scanning of my 8 gig SD card pretty quickly, but I haven't put on the 2-3 full length movies I usually keep there in the video directory. I will load a couple movies tonight & then I will get a much fairer test of the new version vs the original.

~John

[Charles@Kinoma]

John,

Originally Posted by jmorton10

I had no idea that a new version had come out two days ago, I just happened to stumble across a posting about it & went to the Kinoma site to check it out.

We post update news via our blog and Twitter (just 2-5 tweets/week), and the details for those are in my signature. Otherwise, Kinoma Play will automatically alert you about updates soon after they're available.

Originally Posted by jmorton10

I saw that some of the bugs that certain people (me) where complaining about had reportedly been fixed & others had not.

I know we haven't addressed all of your personal complaints yet, but hopefully it's clear that we are listening. We appreciate your patience.

Originally Posted by jmorton10

I have been playing with the new version of Kinoma for a while now & it is certainly a HUGE improvement from the original. [...] The picture directory now actually contains the pics on my device & none of the 1700 GPS gifs etc that the original version showed as pics. The scanning now seems to exclude scanning from program apps etc so it doesn't take as long.

I'm very glad to hear it. Customers have helped us indentify badly-behaved Windows Mobile apps that are storing application resources outside of application folders, and because of that the scanner is already much smarter.

Let us know how it works when you put your full-length movies back on the card, okay?

-- Charles Wiltgen

[jmorton10]

By the way, does anybody know how to redo the file associations to undo the damage caused by Kinoma?? I cannot figure out any easy way to do it like you can in Windows XP/Vista etc.

The way my system is now, if I locate an mp3 with the file explorer & click it open, it insists on opening the file with Kinoma & SCANNING the system just to play the one song........