10-27-2007, 03:14 PM
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They absolutely have info on you the minute you fire up the app and begin streaming content. In order to make the connection certain handheld info is logged on the server. Keep in mind your PPC has unique info like your MIN and ESN which could certainly be used to aid in your identification. Not to mention if you "Subscribe" it is absolutely documented. A simple demonstration of this is why you dont need to re-subscribe once you have done the initial subscription (even if you re-flash and reinstall - this is NOT like OTA broadcast reception only TV). [soapbox] All web access leaves a papertrail, regardless of how you get there. If you use a device which gets assigned an IP (again no matter if its BT, EvDO or WiFi) you leave an identifying trail. You are not anonymous online unless you take specific steps to protect yourself and even then its no guarantee. [/soapbox] As i posted earlier the "un-official" comment i got from the Market Manager was that "it will be dealt with". He was not clear on a timetable he mentioned they are super preoccupied prepping for the holiday sales push and other issues (WiMax?). But as many have said, only time in billing will tell 
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10-27-2007, 03:22 PM
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I will agree with that, even I have admitted to waiting for the next billing, my question (if you know, you seem to know more about this app than most of us) would be HOW??? I just don't see how they can bill us with no information other than our MIN and ESN from our phones. Do you have any ideas on that? You really have my curiosity going now....I kinda like learning things like that!!!!!
Thanks for the info, it is really interesting stuff! |
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10-27-2007, 04:32 PM
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First off forget about it being "Sprint" branded. The "opt-in" which you pointed out (think authorization for service, or you mentioned filling a form) happens when you install the app and authorize it to connect for service (there is a "data connection" reminder at startup). The formal billing "subscription" is triggered from within the app itself. What i can say is think of the billing like a ringtone webpage you visit which just bills your Carrier as opposed to making you whip out a CC via SSL online. Or Handmark on sprint who bills your Carrier Account as oppose to making you pay via CC for apps, and media. Its actually preferred by a vendor to bill your Carrier Account (cell account) opposed to CC billing because you cannot easily dispute the charge at the Carrier level and due to keeping your service from being shut off you are more likely to pay the bill. So its a far higher collection success issue. Its my understanding The Carrier (Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, etc) pretty much has to accept the billing when the vendor shows your IP (or whatever specific info) accessed and authorized the charge - Remember...your accepting the billing when you choose "Subscribe". Text message purchases although different medium work much the same way (buy ringtone, buy subscription to horoscope etc.). |
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10-27-2007, 04:46 PM
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To determin who you are, there are a few ways that the program could announce you.
1.) IP address, usually is not a DHCP assigned address, but is static by carrier. They can easily find who has what service by looking at the first three octects of an IP address. 2.) ESN information transmitted along with the stream. ESN id's phone model, make, AND carrier if it is a locked phone. Which all VZW and Sprint ones are. Not sure how this'd work on a GSM unlocked phone. 3.) Phone number transmitted along with the stream. Yes, the program CAN have access to your phone number, assuming security certificates and such are in good order. |
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10-27-2007, 11:13 PM
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Well what it comes down to, its a service so expect to be charged, if your not willing to take the chance then uninstall it. I'm on the vision plan but who knows they might come back and charge me anyways since the mogul is not an "approved" TV phone. lol i just hope they dont send me a bill a year from now when theyve "dealt with it" as a previous poster mentioned.
Either way I dont think its worth the extra 20 a month for the extra channel, which i subscribed to and plan to cancel, personally I'd rather watch TV on a plasma. |
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10-28-2007, 07:52 AM
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But I can not fit a plasma in my work truck.
Friday I had to head out to a job site and wait on a contractor to show. So while I waited I propped the mogul up on the dash and I was able to watch the latest news. So yes its good for me. |
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10-28-2007, 04:42 PM
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Sprint TV
i installed the cab for the Sprint TV and when i go to connect it doesnt it is tryiny to but after 30min i stop the connection and restarted but i just wont connect anyone getting this to
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10-28-2007, 05:32 PM
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I only get cnn free all the other I have to subscribe
do you have to pay extra for other channels if you have SERO? because SERO includes unlimited vision |
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10-28-2007, 07:30 PM
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i just installed this cab & it starts to load the welcome movie then it gives me a 7000 error also i've tried tapping the screen & it lets me bypass then i've gone to several channels i keep getting the same error. I've tried uninstalling-reinstalling ive tried soft resets i get the same error i would like to know if it makes a diff which way i installed it i loaded the zip file then unzipped from the phone to my docs & installed the cab should i do it from the pc and load through active sync or should i load to mem card.........this is very frustrating and any help would be great with my issue
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