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Old 01-23-2010, 11:34 PM
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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this is true!
WM is killing HTC!
Does microsoft even earns a profit on WM!
Besides histrionics, do you have any evidence whatsoever for this proposition? Especially since HTC's largest growth period has been putting out WinMo devices in the last few years?
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That would be AWESOME WinMo is a POS that happens to be on a lot of awesome devices. Android is killing Microsoft and starting to eat away at apples pie.
I seriously see no relevance of some of these posts in this thread that articulate a personal preference for one OS over another. That is not the issue here nor has any bearing. It's childish partisanship.

Why would Google buying HTC "be awesome"? What is it about Google that makes you think they know anything about engineering phones, dealing with carriers, firmware, etc? How will it squelch the other 15 OEMs who make WM devices? How would the Nexus One be any different if Google owned HTC? Why would ticking of Motorola be a good business decision? Begin by answering some of those questions.

Try using facts, evidence, probability, precedent to make your point--it goes a lot further.

Now I'm off to write my "Why Microsoft should buy Apple" article
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:54 PM
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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Poorly written and researched article.
  • HTC just announced that they were developing an Android tablet but have suspended any further development. So that angle is out. If you missed that story, you shouldn't be writing articles on HTC and Google.
  • WM7's future hardly depends on HTC. LG, Samsung, Asus, Acer and eventually Motorola will all be on board. WM6.5 has 15 OEMs.
  • LG is the one to really watch: they have the money, research, experience and depth of market to really challenge HTC in the WinMo market
  • Google does not do nor want to be in the hardware business, which is vastly different than software. They have no experience with it either. Furthermore, doing so would tick off all their OEMs who would drop Android in a heartbeat on such a decision, thereby killing all momentum. OEMs are already (privately) ticked off about the Nexus One
  • Moto's DROID is the best selling Android phone, not the Nexus One. So it's nothing to bet the farm on.
  • HTC is not for sale and a hostile takeover does not seem likely. Being a publicly traded company, Google couldn't just buy them. Google usually buys privately held startups and they like to keep it quiet.
There's just no basis for anything in this article.
you fricken rock and you know your stuff pretty well. thank you for this.
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

and another thing, how can WinMo 7 be killed if it's not even alive!?
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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and another thing, how can WinMo 7 be killed if it's not even alive!?
Lol too true.
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

I agree with Mala. Most phone makers use the trade & license model. It's the market standard. There are few exceptions to this like Nokia, Sony Erikkson, ect. And if the latest trends are any indication, even these companies are having a hard time lately. It's hard to deny Apple changed the game in this space, and it's not easy to to change your business model to full house manufacturer, especially given the lack of experience in hardware/software or independent sales. Google probably wouldn't waste time buying a industry giant and take on established leaders, in addition to upsetting just established partners on aits main mobile platform. Seeing the problems Sony & Motorola are going through, I doubt Google will go that route, and on that note, Microsoft. Besides, the license model works well for most to market their wares as a virtually unknown (in mindshare) platform. Apple at least had the iPod platform to push iPhone, and they have the experience of being a hardware/software manufacturer. But hey just my two cents.
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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Besides histrionics, do you have any evidence whatsoever for this proposition? Especially since HTC's largest growth period has been putting out WinMo devices in the last few years?

I seriously see no relevance of some of these posts in this thread that articulate a personal preference for one OS over another. That is not the issue here nor has any bearing. It's childish partisanship.

Why would Google buying HTC "be awesome"? What is it about Google that makes you think they know anything about engineering phones, dealing with carriers, firmware, etc? How will it squelch the other 15 OEMs who make WM devices? How would the Nexus One be any different if Google owned HTC? Why would ticking of Motorola be a good business decision? Begin by answering some of those questions.

Try using facts, evidence, probability, precedent to make your point--it goes a lot further.

Now I'm off to write my "Why Microsoft should buy Apple" article
Dont condescend me, I do this for a living.
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:29 PM
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

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Dont condescend me, I do this for a living.
What's that, posting vague, non-supported statements on message boards, substituting dialogue with argumentum ad verecundiam or confusing condescension with criticism?
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..Most phone makers use the trade & license model. It's the market standard. There are few exceptions to this like Nokia, Sony Erikkson, ect. And if the latest trends are any indication, even these companies are having a hard time lately. It's hard to deny Apple changed the game in this space, and it's not easy to to change your business model to full house manufacturer, especially given the lack of experience in hardware/software or independent sales. Google probably wouldn't waste time buying a industry giant and take on established leaders, in addition to upsetting just established partners on aits main mobile platform. Seeing the problems Sony & Motorola are going through, I doubt Google will go that route, and on that note, Microsoft. Besides, the license model works well for most to market their wares as a virtually unknown (in mindshare) platform. Apple at least had the iPod platform to push iPhone, and they have the experience of being a hardware/software manufacturer. But hey just my two cents.
Well said.

Google has a lot on their plate. Doing hardware isn't something they're looking to get into quite yet.

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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

I really liked your posts Malatesta.
They're pieced together very well, and full of facts.

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I agree with Mala. Most phone makers use the trade & license model. It's the market standard. There are few exceptions to this like Nokia, Sony Erikkson, ect. And if the latest trends are any indication, even these companies are having a hard time lately. It's hard to deny Apple changed the game in this space, and it's not easy to to change your business model to full house manufacturer, especially given the lack of experience in hardware/software or independent sales. Google probably wouldn't waste time buying a industry giant and take on established leaders, in addition to upsetting just established partners on aits main mobile platform. Seeing the problems Sony & Motorola are going through, I doubt Google will go that route, and on that note, Microsoft. Besides, the license model works well for most to market their wares as a virtually unknown (in mindshare) platform. Apple at least had the iPod platform to push iPhone, and they have the experience of being a hardware/software manufacturer. But hey just my two cents.
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Re: What if Google bought HTC? Could Kill WinMo 7

Google sells one other hardware product (besides the Nexus 1), the Google Search Appliance. And guess, what, they can't even make a simple x86 server... they have to get Dell to do it for them. No chance or rationale for them to buy HTC.
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