A challenge to all gurus: Help me keep my phone!

[syrguy1969]

Originally Posted by Cmass

Will do....in a few hours.
I have to actually use this thing as a phone for a while. We are experiencing record flooding. I just found out my wife is stranded at work due to a mudslide...and now the power if flickering here at home..Oh well, if the Internet goes out at least I have my Omnia!!

Learning about the power of the Omnia already are we?!?!?!

Seriously though good luck, and I hope all come out of it well + healthy!!!!

[Cmass]

Made it back alive! Plowed the Jeep (slowly) through 1 1/2 feet of water at the bottom of my driveway. Mudslides, avalanches, flooding have closed all 3 passes and may close I-5 - and if that happens, it would for all practical purposes cut off much of Western Washington from the rest of the country. Interesting evening...
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I just tried the cursor hack so that my cursor arrow went from white to orange, so I know something is working right!

The sliders seem to have "taken" as well. This time I didn't immediate soft reset after changing the value.

Much nicer! A cool orange cursor and larger sliders!!
I'm getting happier.....

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Now concerning the Manila 2D - or whatever the hell it's called:

There appears to be a lot of confusion out there concerning this (or these) programs. I've read about Manila 2D, Touchflo 2D, Manila 3D, Touchflo 3D, TF3D, Manila Touch Flo 3D and so forth and so on. There also appears to be other required apps that may or may not be bundled with and may or may not be require to run the initial download. Also, some apparently work with QVGA devices and others only with VGA.

From what I can tell, 2D and 3D are probably different (perhaps 3D incorporates flipping pages like Spb Shell??) but I'm not sure about Manila and Touchflo. In some discussions people say they are the same thing, while in others people say they are different. In some threads people complained that Touchflo 2D doesn't work right in the Omnia whereas the M2D does work but only with a certain download sequence and moon lining up with Venus.

This is how I'm attempting to approach this:

Narrow down the names,
Define what these programs are and their differences,
What they provide,
Where to download THE MOST RECENT versions. I THINK the latest version is 20?? (Some of the links sent me to a site that wanted money to use their services while others sent me to irrelevant ads and no downloads)
A list of their idiosyncrasies, bugs that need to be patched and WHERE to find those downloads.
Then finally, a list of all the nifty ways you can decorate and configure.

[Adrynalyne]

We cant use Touch Flow 3d, as we dont have the hardware for it.

We can use TF2D, aka Manila 2D, aka M2D.

It works like crap for landscape mode, but is nice otherwise. It does suck down the program ram and storage ram, though.

To make it easy, here is a do it all in one shot cab file.

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/2...eator/page/20/

[DJRedLine]

Originally Posted by Cmass

Now concerning the Manila 2D - or whatever the hell it's called:

There appears to be a lot of confusion out there concerning this (or these) programs. I've read about Manila 2D, Touchflo 2D, Manila 3D, Touchflo 3D, TF3D, Manila Touch Flo 3D and so forth and so on. There also appears to be other required apps that may or may not be bundled with and may or may not be require to run the initial download. Also, some apparently work with QVGA devices and others only with VGA.

From what I can tell, 2D and 3D are probably different (perhaps 3D incorporates flipping pages like Spb Shell??) but I'm not sure about Manila and Touchflo. In some discussions people say they are the same thing, while in others people say they are different. In some threads people complained that Touchflo 2D doesn't work right in the Omnia whereas the M2D does work but only with a certain download sequence and moon lining up with Venus.

This is how I'm attempting to approach this:

Narrow down the names,
Define what these programs are and their differences,
What they provide,
Where to download THE MOST RECENT versions. I THINK the latest version is 20?? (Some of the links sent me to a site that wanted money to use their services while others sent me to irrelevant ads and no downloads)
A list of their idiosyncrasies, bugs that need to be patched and WHERE to find those downloads.
Then finally, a list of all the nifty ways you can decorate and configure.

To carry on with what Adrynalyne just said.
The latest version of M2D that we can use is 19b, never pay for a download as its a free customization package (you could give a donation to the developer though for their hard work)
Unlike SPB which can be installed on 'My Storage' area, M2D requires at least 20mb free of device memory for full install.
If you install it, i advise getting the M2DC install also as this will allow you to change themes (can go on 'My Storage')

[Cmass]

THANKS! for your continued indulgence....I am learning quite a lot.

If it sucks down storage ram, program ram and doesn't work well in landscape, then why do so many gurus such as yourself - people who I assume know most of whats available out there - like it so much?
Customization? Open source? ?

Chris

[DJRedLine]

Originally Posted by Cmass

THANKS! for your continued indulgence....I am learning quite a lot.

If it sucks down storage ram, program ram and doesn't work well in landscape, then why do so many gurus such as yourself - people who I assume know most of whats available out there - like it so much?
Customization? Open source? ?

Chris

I currently use SPB Mobile Shell, but enjoy uninstalling stuff and trying something new for a while.
I like M2D for its ease of use and customization, but at present there does seem to be a lot of changes required to the HTCHomeSettings.xml file each time i install a different theme.

The only new UI i am keen to try is the http://www.pointui.com/ v2 that is due very soon.

[Adrynalyne]

I don't use it for the landscape reason, and the hit to resources. But I have tried it, and it works well (minus com manager issues that I didn't bother trying to resolve).

I use Samsung Today 2 along with my own Launcher customizations. I too, am waiting for PointUI 2, but fear it might not ever happen.

[syrguy1969]

On the issue of M2D, I use Shell, but I have heard good things about M2D in general, and I do remember seeing a landscape fix somewhere...I'll look around for it again!!

edit: OK....I found it, but as I don't use M2D, and haven't even read this entire thread, please report back if you try it for the rest of perspective M2D users....maybe we will post the entire fix in a thread just for M2D users!!

http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-o...ape-manila-2d/

[aleis]

guess which phones was used for the microsoft keynote yesterday!!
YOU GUESSED IT!
our baby!
verizon should have promoted this phone more...

[JonV]

Originally Posted by aleis

guess which phones was used for the microsoft keynote yesterday!!
YOU GUESSED IT!
our baby!
verizon should have promoted this phone more...

I heard Live Search was demo'ed on it. I'm wondering if the internal GPS was used.