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Old 08-08-2008, 10:27 AM
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Re: Battery life on 800w

i have my 800w at my house (just got delivered)
i have always had phones that they made ext batteries for.
since the 800w dosent have this. what is the proper way to cycle through the battery and for how long must i do this.
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Re: Battery life on 800w

Cycling through the battery is a bunch of horse****. These batteries are rated for a
certain number of complete charges and discharges. Your hair needs conditioning more
than your battery does.

On a more positive note, my Treo 800w has push contacts/calendar, is checking 2 IMAP
boxes every 5 minutes. It's getting e-mails and I even use my phone to make calls or
perform other tasks. The battery lasts between 12 and 16 hours on a complete charge,
depending on how much talking takes place. If I didn't touch it, it would last even longer.

I am employing regular, sensible power-saving settings; I didn't download any special
programs, I am not running extra software and I am not worrying about bogus battery
techniques.

The 800w does have a battery problem: it's 12-16 hours instead of my desired 16-24
hours on a phone that powerful. That could only be accomplished with a larger battery.
The E90, which has a 1500 mAh battery easily lasts 2 days doing more. There is no
magic here.
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Re: Battery life on 800w

where can i get the battery and back that is rated for 1500mAh??
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Re: Battery life on 800w

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where can i get the battery and back that is rated for 1500mAh??
I was talking about the E90. The Nokia E90. It helps to read carefully.
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Re: Battery life on 800w

idk i just dont buy that this is how its supposed to be. I have a Sprint Touch side by side with the 800w which have very similar batteries (within 50mah i believe) and the HTC lasts just a lot longer both in standby with nothing running and too everything off both today screens and BT/wifi/Ir any of that stuff in radios off (except the phone being on not in flight mode, and evdo dormant)

Something is wrong with the battery in these 800's because something is draining it whether it be the gps or whatever it could be. They should last very similar amounts of time being almost the same capacity with equal things running (be it nothing here)

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Re: Battery life on 800w

well it has been one night with the phone and i dont think the battery is that bad. i had everything turned off. every time i ended and app i went to the task manager and made sure it was gone. i only went down 10% for super using it for about an hour. im, wifi, ir, watching youtube
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: Battery life on 800w

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Cycling through the battery is a bunch of horse****. These batteries are rated for a
certain number of complete charges and discharges. Your hair needs conditioning more
than your battery does.
....
The 800w does have a battery problem: it's 12-16 hours instead of my desired 16-24
hours on a phone that powerful. That could only be accomplished with a larger battery.
The E90, which has a 1500 mAh battery easily lasts 2 days doing more. There is no
magic here.
Complete agreement here. I got my 800w a couple of weeks ago and checked a few 800w forums when I saw my battery was not holding up. People were saying it needed conditioning which is not true. If anything every single cycle lowers your battery capacity on this type of battery. It will never work better than the first full charge.

I have been tweaking every setting, turning off all the features, which is not exactly fun since I purchased the 800W for the features. Still the battery does not last a full business day.

People seem to think Palm was pursuing a thin form factor, maybe with an obsession over the iPhone, and this blinded them to designing the 800W for a proper battery for a WM6.1 with all these features. I agree.

An 1800 mAh battery would have had no effect on the footprint and add maybe 1 to 1.5 mm to the thickness, about 7 or 8 grams in weight, and about $2 to Palm's battery purchase cost. The 800W would then work as it should through a business day. It is after all sold as a business user handset.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Battery life on 800w

They could probably purchase a 1600mah with the same footprint, only it would cost 50 cents more.
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: Battery life on 800w

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Complete agreement here. I got my 800w a couple of weeks ago and checked a few 800w forums when I saw my battery was not holding up. People were saying it needed conditioning which is not true. If anything every single cycle lowers your battery capacity on this type of battery. It will never work better than the first full charge.

I have been tweaking every setting, turning off all the features, which is not exactly fun since I purchased the 800W for the features. Still the battery does not last a full business day.

People seem to think Palm was pursuing a thin form factor, maybe with an obsession over the iPhone, and this blinded them to designing the 800W for a proper battery for a WM6.1 with all these features. I agree.

An 1800 mAh battery would have had no effect on the footprint and add maybe 1 to 1.5 mm to the thickness, about 7 or 8 grams in weight, and about $2 to Palm's battery purchase cost. The 800W would then work as it should through a business day. It is after all sold as a business user handset.
Well gee... If cycling the battery doesn't help.. how come I'm actually a lot happier with the battery life then when I got the phone? If you look at the person who started the thread it was me and I'm actually not complaining about battery life anymore. I think cycling a battery is the same thing as breaking in a baseball glove or a cars engine when their brand new.
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Re: Battery life on 800w

with everything off, including the screen saver and after i am done with a app i go into the task manager and end it. i have noticed better battery life than my 755p.
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