How Microsoft blew it with Windows Mobile

[smoove21]

Originally Posted by shaggylive

when you can find other o/s in devices like this then your argument sticks.
the fact is the only reason we have what we have now is due to business's buying winmobile for years. the first thing bb did was focus on enterprise server/software to tie into existing business networks, namely Microsoft. and since they had the first/best all-in-one phone busness's were willing to buy that extra equipment and licenses.

this whole argument about the ui is just that. the other o/s's were specifically designed with the u/i in mind. winmo has the architecture designed for corporate environments. I also believe this gets to the core of why were waiting for wm7. I suspect it's a completely different platform, hopefully making customization and programming easier.

Dude those products aren't running windows mobile, and if they are, its definitely not the same os in microsoft's mobile phone line.. They're running windows software built for the specific fields they're being used in. Your argument doesnt stick or make any sense. If you were to pay attention we're talking about the best mobile phone os and how microsoft's argument is their os is/was built for the "enterprise user." Lol who here has said apple has the best forklift os or that rim has the better bar-code scanner software. Fact is your statement speaks on two completely different subjects. We're talking specifically about mobile phone OS' not just how pretty they are. Take into account the usability and speed of the os not just how powerful or pretty(ui) it is.

[thejacer]

Originally Posted by smoove21

Dude those products aren't running windows mobile, and if they are, its definitely not the same os in microsoft's mobile phone line.. They're running windows software built for the specific fields they're being used in. Your argument doesnt stick or make any sense. If you were to pay attention we're talking about the best mobile phone os and how microsoft's argument is their os is/was built for the "enterprise user." Lol who here has said apple has the best forklift os or that rim has the better bar-code scanner software. Fact is your statement speaks on two completely different subjects. We're talking specifically about mobile phone OS' not just how pretty they are. Take into account the usability and speed of the os not just how powerful or pretty(ui) it is.

lol...its the same os running on those devices as your phone. same os. maybe they havent taken the time to update .net cf or those are running an extremely outdated version of winmo but yeah, its no different from winmo 5 or 6 running on a phone. I've written a texting program on a windows 5 gps device with no cellular functions and used a point of sale device at my work running 6.0...btw ms doesnt have a mobile phone line. they have an os.

Originally Posted by x10guy

No.. I don't think that is their main problem.
If they indeed always marketed WinMo to business users, they certainly didn't do a good job.

That's just a cop out saying that Winmo is for business users... But if you insist on using that excuse, then BlackBerrys kicked their behind in the business world.

Their problem is they didn't market at all. but they did in fact produce a nearly exclusively enterprise OS. even if they didnt market it well at all. (which is why RIM stepped in)

[shaggylive]

Originally Posted by smoove21

Fact is your statement speaks on two completely different subjects. We're talking specifically about mobile phone OS' not just how pretty they are. Take into account the usability and speed of the os not just how powerful or pretty(ui) it is.

your right, I'm referring to PocketPc's. I have been aware of this difference developing for some time (PocketPc w/phone vs. phone that does 'everything'.)
as far as usability and speed go, that's completely subjective. consumers wants are different than enterprise needs, and the consumer market only recently started demanding more. before that it was purely a commercial driven device.

this is why the shift from winmo to m$phone. there will still be specialized devices like I linked before, but they will now be under the "embedded" category. (i think)

[JAVIERBOND007]

Wasnt expecting to see that.

[racedog]

I've been using WM for quite a few years. Over that time it hasn't seemed to change much, a few improvements here and there but nothing major, nothing that provided that "wow" moment. I switched to the iphone a few months ago but that relationship only lasted a short time. A nice phone, but, frankly, really boring and worse, running on a real crap network.

I came back to wm via the Omnia but WM 6, the Omnia and Touchwiz were a marriage from gadget hell and that phone lasted exactly one week. I'm now running an Imagio. Nice phone but hampered by WM although I will say that 6.5 is an improvement (not much of one but an improvement) and I like the phone overall. My big complaints are the ones that come from WM. Sometimes slow and very laggy and having to constantly dump the memory to gain some back and get back to a decent speed.

I'm hoping that MS will get WinMo 7 right. I will hold off until then, but I have to admit that I've begun looking at Android. The problem is that Android is still too much in its infancy and I don't think its even close to being ready for prime time in a business use world. I rely on contacts and calendaring and syncing on my phone so that's a major priority.

By the time WM 7 comes out I think we'll be seeing another iteration of Android and have some better options. At that point, MS needs to have hit a winner or I will have to be seriously looking at other options.

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[Noir]

http://jkontherun.com/2009/11/23/win...han-you-think/
finally something i agree with pertaiing to android v wm

[x10guy]

Originally Posted by Noir

http://jkontherun.com/2009/11/23/win...han-you-think/
finally something i agree with pertaiing to android v wm

Yup, anything will beat Android at this point. It it still is fairly early. I want to see what Android is like in a year. Until then, I'm still in the Winmo camp. (of course Sprint locks me into Winmo because all other handsets require the Everything plan)

[MrObvious]

I like the customization of WM though and there are some real nice third party apps that make my Diamond run pretty nice.

[thejacer]

really good article and the comments aren't just flamers. thanks Noir.

[vetvito]

Reality Check
Windows Mobile 7 will not be the iphone or Android killer.

Windows Mobile 6.5.x and 7 will just be platforms for Handset makers such as HTC, Samsung, etc...

Haven't you seen the trends with Samsung Today, HTC Sense?