My friend hates his TP cuz of these issues and blames me 4 selling him on HTC.

[MadlyAlive]

Originally Posted by Mylt1

i bet the battery issue is he either has WiFi or BT on all the time or both. and probably has the screen light turn off set at like 10 min so the back light is always on. friend and OP sound like tools.

Or he's running a stock ROM. I Had horrible battery life when I was stock.

I found the Auto Adjust Backlight is a battery killer too.

[mlin]

I don't know if I believe the 3 batteries a day story. I am currently using my Diamond (I know it has slightly better life than the TP, but the difference isn't that great), and since 7am (its now almost 4pm) I have listened to music all day, data connected all day, push email- have received 25+ emails, sent and received 30+ text, 5 phone calls, and surfed the net for a while during lunch. My battery is now at 20%. I know 20% is pretty low, but I have used the hell out of this phone today and I'm pretty pleased with these results. BTW, signal strength in my building is low so my phone has to work pretty hard to maintain signal and connection.

[MadlyAlive]

Originally Posted by mlin

I don't know if I believe the 3 batteries a day story. I am currently using my Diamond (I know it has slightly better life than the TP, but the difference isn't that great), and since 7am (its now almost 4pm) I have listened to music all day, data connected all day, push email- have received 25+ emails, sent and received 30+ text, 5 phone calls, and surfed the net for a while during lunch. My battery is now at 20%. I know 20% is pretty low, but I have used the hell out of this phone today and I'm pretty pleased with these results. BTW, signal strength in my building is low so my phone has to work pretty hard to maintain signal and connection.

Yeah, I own 3 batteries and I've only had to use a backup maybe a dozen times...and it's usually when I'm on vaca, out of the country or away from the house for more time than usual.

[montecristo1]

Originally Posted by johnnymac

I just received this message from my friend today relating to the TOuch Pro:

"I finally ditched that edit - NinjaMom phone you picked out for me. I am an Iphone man now!"

I agree with him. I hate this Edit-NinjaMom Touch Pro and wish that I had gone with an Iphone. The TP is slow, freezes, build quality is terrible. I've had 3 of them and on all 3 the chrome starts peeling off after on a few weeks of light use.

The only reason I haven't bought the Iphone is because I can't get one on Sprint.... and ATT doesn't work in my house.... So I'm SOL.

Your bud needed a phone that an 12 year can use out of the box, hence the iphone. I have had my Touch Pro for a month, and NEVER experienced the freezes, or being slow (please...- unless it is Verizon- their phones have less ram)...The Touch Pro can be customizable all around. Just last night I, thanks to a member here, I surf the net on my 46 inch LCD tv through my touch pro using an RCA jack that I put together....Your friend had little issues that either a cooked rom or a little of tweaking could easily tweaked or fixed. Don't knock the touch pro, it is a solid, strong phone...way better than the iphone. With the touch pro2 around the corner, it is only going to get sweeter...

[haus]

Originally Posted by montecristo1

the touch pro...is a solid, strong phone...way better than the iphone.

To be fair...I think if we've learned anything from this thread and all the others, "better" really depends on who is using the device and what they need it for. I think the TP is better for me, and I think the iPhone is better for most of my family members.

I was intrigued at the 1700+ contacts component of the OP...I seem to recall another person who posted awhile back having issues with a very large number of contacts. For a business user I can completely understand having that many contacts (particularly in sales), but as I'm nowhere near that can only wonder if there are inefficiencies in the WM contacts code that cause problems when you get to huge numbers of people. I suspect the average number of contacts people have is quite a bit lower than 1000.

And I thought sprint nav did work from contacts, but maybe I was wrong. I never use it that way but again if you're in sales and you need to get to a rep's office in a new city, that would be a nice feature.

Anyway, WM has a long way to go in software and hardware before I'll start recommending it to people I know. But whenever I see someone with a WM smartphone, I get a little nod of appreciation and sometimes get to talk about how they've customized it, which is sort of cool. Reminds me of how Alfa owners often wave to each other on the road.

[bigsexyy81]

The only issue I have in common with this guy is miserable battery life. Which is a significant issue, but everything else he mentioned I don't have problems with.

Maybe I'm just a smart kind of guy.

[askwhy]

Originally Posted by jmorton10

Although I love my TP's (I have three of them), there is NO WAY I would ever recommend the TP to anyone else. [emphasis added]

I tell people all the time that Windows phones are NOT for everybody. The average user that would absolutely LOVE an iphone would never put up with all the tweaks necessary to get a WM phone working correctly......

~John

+1

This is my feeling exactly. I tell my father (iPhone user) about how much I love my phone and he asks, "Should I be jealous? Do I need one?" -- and I have to explain that no matter what cool stuff I can do with my phone, he would stand about a snowflake's chance in Hades of getting a Touch Pro to work as well *for him* as the iPhone does.

Windows Mobile, in general, has been a total failure in terms of mainstream usability, but has been a huge success in terms of providing an open and nonrestrictive foundation for community support and development. It's a platform for technical-minded critical thinkers, people who can not only handle advanced device features and configurations, but crave such things -- and the iPhone is rather the opposite, a platform which encourages only *approved* software development and community modifications, for people that are naturally repelled by the need to learn advanced features and configurations, and just want simple, basic functionality.

Hopefully, future iterations of Windows Mobile will close the gap, and allow people who want simplicity to get off the iPhone crutch while still allowing the rest of us to get under the hood. I can dream, can't I?

[kabuk1]

Originally Posted by tt C6

My friend hates his Sprint Touch Pro and blames me 4 selling him on HTC.

If anyone can offer any help or fixes, I would greatly appreciate it.
I am going to e-mail him a link to this thread.

Thank you.


The following in quotes is the e-mail he sent me.

Punch him in the throat.

It's not your fault he doesn't like it & he's being a jerk for putting it all on you. To each his own, if he doesn't like it tell him to get something else.

[Carla]

Originally Posted by kabuk1

Punch him in the throat.

It's not your fault he doesn't like it & he's being a jerk for putting it all on you. To each his own, if he doesn't like it tell him to get something else.

LOL, I love this response!!! I am with her on this...Karate Chop right to the neck

[Cicatrize]

Originally Posted by askwhy

+1

This is my feeling exactly. I tell my father (iPhone user) about how much I love my phone and he asks, "Should I be jealous? Do I need one?" -- and I have to explain that no matter what cool stuff I can do with my phone, he would stand about a snowflake's chance in Hades of getting a Touch Pro to work as well *for him* as the iPhone does.

Windows Mobile, in general, has been a total failure in terms of mainstream usability, but has been a huge success in terms of providing an open and nonrestrictive foundation for community support and development. It's a platform for technical-minded critical thinkers, people who can not only handle advanced device features and configurations, but crave such things -- and the iPhone is rather the opposite, a platform which encourages only *approved* software development and community modifications, for people that are naturally repelled by the need to learn advanced features and configurations, and just want simple, basic functionality.

Hopefully, future iterations of Windows Mobile will close the gap, and allow people who want simplicity to get off the iPhone crutch while still allowing the rest of us to get under the hood. I can dream, can't I?

Well put. The problem lies within people trying to justify their purchases by comparing them to other devices that, although similar, are actually incredibly different. I think the people who criticize others for getting an iPhone are just about as stupid as the people who criticize others for not getting an iPhone.

Each device has its own purpose, and as such, are intended for different audiences.