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Nagual · #11 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by amw1972

How often should I let the battery run all the way down? I've had my TP for about 2 weeks now, and I've wondered if I should let it run down...and "refresh" the battery memory?

I've seen a lot of debate about this, but the most even-handed sounding things I've read on the subject state that in practical everyday use LiOn batteries really get nothing extra good from being totally discharged. They have basically no "memory effect" and unless they're treated very poorly somehow, perform steadily for people under most conditions and can't be "tricked" into doing anything miraculous.

I personally think that the people saying it's the TP's meter that gets less sensitive and more realistic, and not altogether the battery itself after the "break-in" period, are closer to the truth.

**amw1972** · #12 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 10:32 PM

It does make sense, since most folks have reported on inaccurate battery meters. I, too, have witnessed my batt meter (with %) go from 99% to 91% steadily over a period of 10 seconds.

Palladium · #13 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by creedin

so i normally charge my phone with the wall outlet and my phone would die by the end of the day (from like 9-9 it would die) from about 7-6ish it would die, well last night i was too lazy to plug it into the wall and just plugged it into my computer. well, i got up this morning, it was all charged went to school at 7 and had a 100% charge till about 10, then had a 90 percent till about 3 then 80% from 3 till 7. I have texted, played games, had apps open, and it is still running strong! maybe a trick?

let me know if this works for others.

There may be some truth to this, I have noticed (and actually posted in another thread) that if the phone is allowed to go to sleep while charging, when the battery reaches 100% and quits charging, the battery will begin to discharge, and when removed from the charger the battery level (accurate or not) drops to 80-90%. If you plug the charger back in and let it charge to full and take it off, it stays at 98-100% (yes, I'm using the nuepower batery driver) and lasts much longer that if you did not "top off" the battery. If you leave the phone hooked to the USB port to charge, Activesync will keep the phone from sleeping and it will continue to charge/top off the battery.

blue4shizzle · #14 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 10:59 PM

guys.. seriously, regardless I don't think these changes will result in that big of a difference in our battery life, I'm pretty sure that we all are intelligent enough to think of several clever ways to charge our phones but regardless of the method its still going to result in pretty much the same thing. when its all said and done, it just depends on the usage we put into our Tp's

micro254 · #15 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 11:08 PM

totally agree with you bro.. i have tried all these methods and they are alll the same it all depends on usage of the phone and what programs are running in the background

creedin · #16 (**permalink**) 12-03-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by amw1972

How often should I let the battery run all the way down? I've had my TP for about 2 weeks now, and I've wondered if I should let it run down...and "refresh" the battery memory?

you are supposed to drain the battery completely after a full charge, for the first couple of charges, so the battery knows an empty to a full

**TurboFool** · #17 (**permalink**) 12-04-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by creedin

you are supposed to drain the battery completely after a full charge, for the first couple of charges, so the battery knows an empty to a full

Halfway accurate. It knows empty to full either way. It just helps kill off any of the "gunk" from the manufacturing process and ensures full life.

After that you should try to never let it die. Deep cycling regularly is bad for LiIons.

xtkxhom3r · #18 (**permalink**) 12-04-2008, 12:06 AM

i can also confirm this it does last longer charging it from the usb

blue4shizzle · #19 (**permalink**) 12-04-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by creedin

you are supposed to drain the battery completely after a full charge, for the first couple of charges, so the battery knows an empty to a full

you dont have to do that with a lithion battery.. technology has swapped about 2 years ago sir.. but you can do it if it will make you feel better, but im telling you its pointless

**TurboFool** · #20 (**permalink**) 12-04-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blue4shizzle

you dont have to do that with a lithion battery.. technology has swapped about 2 years ago sir.. but you can do it if it will make you feel better, but im telling you its pointless

I can't agree it's pointless when the manufacturers of the devices all recommend doing it. Emptying it fully every month or so, like used to be recommended, is definitely completely pointless. But when companies like HTC, the manufacturers of the third-party batteries, and manufacturers of other devices all say you won't reach your full battery life until you've drained it and fully charged it a couple of times, I kind of have to believe them. They have slightly more knowledge than I do.