Touch Pro Build Date

[SprintTouch08]

Originally Posted by ScrapMaker

I bet it's lowered expectations.



You think I like to find problems? I would much rather NOT find a problem with my expensive, flagship device.

I can't wait to check out the Xperia X1 tomorrow. For some reason, it REAALLLY bothers me that I can barely use the edges of the on-screen keyboard. Hitting the A is really tough, for me. Why have such a nice screen to only manufacture it so poorly? oh well

No Scrap i agree with you, i went through 4 Pro's the first 2 weeks it was out and then told myself its just not worth it. My Diamond i had since its release date was flawless out of the box and the Pro build quality seems much poorer.

I agree its sad that people have lowered their expectations from something that costs almost $600. You wouldnt accept a car with major defects so people shouldnt accept it in expensive electronics either. There is bound to be a few snafus but there are MAN widespread issues with the Pro in manufacturing and build quality.

The screen ill agree is something you just have to get used to because of the technology and the flush screen vs one with edges like the older models (it does make a difference with the layer of plastic to sensitivity). BUT other true defects like dpads, poor earpieces, chrome flaking, loose sliders, etc are unacceptable for something you spend a lot of your hard earned money on.

At some point you have to say to yourself if its worth your time and aggravation and driving to Sprint stores no matter how great a device it may be. I have no clue how some people justify finding time to bring theirs in for a swap once every few weeks or what not, I have a career and other things to worry about first. My Diamond was flawless so i stuck with that, be it HTC still, but i spoke with my wallet and did not purchase a Pro after going through 4.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by SprintTouch08

No Scrap i agree with you, i went through 4 Pro's the first 2 weeks it was out and then told myself its just not worth it. My Diamond i had since its release date was flawless out of the box and the Pro build quality seems much poorer.

I agree its sad that people have lowered their expectations from something that costs almost $600. You wouldnt accept a car with major defects so people shouldnt accept it in expensive electronics either. There is bound to be a few snafus but there are MAN widespread issues with the Pro in manufacturing and build quality.

The screen ill agree is something you just have to get used to because of the technology and the flush screen vs one with edges like the older models (it does make a difference with the layer of plastic to sensitivity). BUT other true defects like dpads, poor earpieces, chrome flaking, loose sliders, etc are unacceptable for something you spend a lot of your hard earned money on.

At some point you have to say to yourself if its worth your time and aggravation and driving to Sprint stores no matter how great a device it may be. I have no clue how some people justify finding time to bring theirs in for a swap once every few weeks or what not, I have a career and other things to worry about first. My Diamond was flawless so i stuck with that, be it HTC still, but i spoke with my wallet and did not purchase a Pro after going through 4.

For me, it's primarily for business use. My company is actually paying for it. They would not be the slight bit happy with me if I bought something that didn't work primarily as a phone. I really need to find out if they make a Pro that doesn't overheat during regular phone calls... My two 11/7 phones, and even this 11/6 seems to get kinda hot...

[Big D5]

I guess my expectations aren't as high as yours I know that there are manufacturer tolerances on any mass produced item and these tolerances can lead to different experiences for different people. I have had probably 20+ of these devices over the years I received most of them from Sprint insurance after damage of some kind, in all of then there has been a lack of sensitivity around the screen edges, I expect it so I adapt. When you have a screen of this type it can be affected by things like temperature for example, its material composition can allow it to expand and contract causing different levels of sensitivity around the edges. that is why it has an option to recalibrate you can find this in settings. Forward facing screen bottom line is the most retarded thing that any manufacturer ever did because of the possibility of manufacturer tolerances and changes in atmosfer and temperature causing sensitivity issues. I like Windows Mobile and until Manufacturers change screen types to something a little more stable there will always be people who don't understand these issues and have problems with these screens. If you like the Windows Mobile platform you need to adapt to your device. IMHO this is why HTC usually makes a qwerty equipped device for all there more popular devices those who type a lot wont like typing on the screen because of the sensitivity issues. Now for the bottom line on this issue these screens aren't perfect they are not going to be so you need to adapt.

Over hearting, broken plastic dimpled screens, screens that wont calibrate... obvious manufacturing issues like these are good cause for an exchange so please do.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by Big D5

I guess my expectations aren't as high as yours I know that there are manufacturer tolerances on any mass produced item and these tolerances can lead to different experiences for different people. I have had probably 20+ of these devices over the years I received most of them from Sprint insurance after damage of some kind, in all of then there has been a lack of sensitivity around the screen edges, I expect it so I adapt. When you have a screen of this type it can be affected by things like temperature for example, its material composition can allow it to expand and contract causing different levels of sensitivity around the edges. that is why it has an option to recalibrate you can find this in settings. Forward facing screen bottom line is the most retarded thing that any manufacturer ever did because of the possibility of manufacturer tolerances and changes in atmosfer and temperature causing sensitivity issues. I like Windows Mobile and until Manufacturers change screen types to something a little more stable there will always be people who don't understand these issues and have problems with these screens. If you like the Windows Mobile platform you need to adapt to your device. IMHO this is why HTC usually makes a qwerty equipped device for all there more popular devices those who type a lot wont like typing on the screen because of the sensitivity issues. Now for the bottom line on this issue these screens aren't perfect they are not going to be so you need to adapt.

Over hearting, broken plastic dimpled screens, screens that wont calibrate... obvious manufacturing issues like these are good cause for an exchange so please do.

The screen insensitivity is an obvious manufacturing/design defect as well, but you're right, there's no point in exchanging the phone, because they all seem to have this defect...

[[sammich]]

I wouldn't even call it a defect. There is virtually NOTHING that can be done about it. Basic physics. There is more resistance closer to the support.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by saumaun

I wouldn't even call it a defect. There is virtually NOTHING that can be done about it. Basic physics. There is more resistance closer to the support.

How is it not a defect? The Touch, Mogul, and Apache did not have this issue.

The only ones that have the issue are the Pro and Diamond.

[Glitch4583]

Alrighty,

Shipping back my phone to WireFly to be replaced, crossin my fingers for an 11/6 build or later.

- Glitch

[ncraba01]

10/12 - Buzzy Speaker

[GREGHARKINS]

My ROM date is Alltel 10/9/08

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My original phone was 10/13 and had a keyboard gap that I wasn't happy with...and the buttons stuck out. Wife had another TP from 10/18 that was better physically but sometimes the phone wouldn't work and gave an "operation failed" and she wasn't doing anything fancy with the phone....it was STOCK. So I exchanged both the other day at BB and both phones are 11/7 build date and both look and work great so far. Keyboard gap is much better and I would agree with the consensus that those from 11/7 or thereabout look like they are good to go.