CEO's. Execs. Corporate Idiots. Etc.

[AClotfelter]

Originally Posted by Tiberius85

I wish they would promote these handsets (Diamond and Touch Pro) they way they promoted the Instinct. I must have had a dozen people see my phone and its touchscreen and go "Is that an iPhone?!!'

I dont want needless hype. Whenever there is hype, and over-promotion its to make up for something lacking in the product, to drum up its positives to overcome some glaring negatives.

Everyone knows a RAZR. Would be nice if one of these handsets had some sort of recognition like that instead of total obscurity.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy a phone so that people will fawn over me. I could care less if someone recognizes my phone, so long as it does what I want/need. Seriously, why would it matter if someone knew what it was? It's a communications/computing tool. Specs are what matters... besides, if you buy a phone just for the attention it brings, i would think you would love the fact that people think it's one thing, and you get to hit em' with the "It's cooler than an iPhone" zinger.

[quarky42]

Originally Posted by berry_lthird

They HAVE a CDMA model RIGHT NOW. I bet some greasy bastards at Sprint and Verizon have already molested the hell out of one especially branded for them. And I bet they are saying stupid crap like, "we can lose the FRONT CAMERA....NO ONE'S GOING TO USE IT ANYWAY....BESIDES, IT'S THE PERFECT PLACE TO PUT OUR $%#@* LOGO!".

Nazis.

I don't entirely disagree with your main point that the waiting game is getting old. Fine.

However I have to raise the BS flag on the front camera. Sprint and Verizon are CDMA and as such you can't have a voice channel and data channel (video) active at the same time. It is the nature of the network that prevents the use of a front camera. Sprint didn't decide to leave off the front camera to be d!cks about it... they just realized that they couldn't make video calls so they say 90% of the reason to keep the front camera fade away.

And the Nazis were a group of crazy people that committed genocide. I don't think any phone corporations have come close to that yet. Perhaps there is a better disparagement available that doesn't compare a corporation to mass murder.

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by quarky42

I don't entirely disagree with your main point that the waiting game is getting old. Fine.

However I have to raise the BS flag on the front camera. Sprint and Verizon are CDMA and as such you can't have a voice channel and data channel (video) active at the same time. It is the nature of the network that prevents the use of a front camera. Sprint didn't decide to leave off the front camera to be d!cks about it... they just realized that they couldn't make video calls so they say 90% of the reason to keep the front camera fade away.

And the Nazis were a group of crazy people that committed genocide. I don't think any phone corporations have come close to that yet. Perhaps there is a better disparagement available that doesn't compare a corporation to mass murder.

By "Nazis" I meant a group of people who are fanatically like-minded who don't question the ethics of their bosses.

And as far as the front camera goes: Maybe the network couldn't handle it, but it would have certainly been a nice feature to take self portraits with. To me, it would seem like it would be more trouble to take it out than just leave it in.

It's not like it's an appendix.

[roncruiser]

Originally Posted by berry_lthird

It must be a game or something. It MUST be. Seriously. How obvious could it be that the upgrade to one of the most popular Pocket PC devices (Titan/Mogul) would be on EVERYONE's wish list? They have to know, these corporate puppets, who make us wait on devices like the Raphael.

Look at the f-in iPhone. Over one million sold already, and the damned thing hasn't been out for a month yet. What--are they trying to create anticipation artificially? Is this waiting game entirely contrived? It has to be. No one can be that stupid, could they? I almost refuse to believe that HTC, Sprint, Verizon, and all the other bed mates could be so dumb as to screw something like this up on accident. It has to be on purpose. I just has to be.

No one can be that dumb.

The problem is that they know they will make a buck no matter what. They rest on their laurels because for all intents and purposes they have NO COMPETITORS other than the iPhone. They know the geeks will wait as long as we have to to get our nerdy paws on one. And they know that the average consumer is about as smart as a can of yellow cling peaches.

I'm sick of being teased like this....so much so that I've thought about getting a basic LG music phone called the Chocolate 3. Simple design. Mini USB port for data and charging. Standard 3.5mm headphone jack. USB wall charger. Transflash support. FM Radio broadcast. Smart.

So we get a new Windows Mobile device. Then we have to hack it. Then we have to patch it. Then we have to wait some more for new features to leak. Then we have to patch again. Boom. Wow. GPS. SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING DAY 1!!!

I'm really annoyed and sick of this crap. It's all a corporate game, and I'm so ed right now, I'm strongly considering not playing anymore.

I enjoyed reading your rant. Get a life I support your effort in not playing anymore for your own health. Hence your head will .
Maybe it already did.

Making the bucks like they do... those exec's and CEO's get paid to not be idiots. You're a crack-up. Keep posting though... very entertaining.

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by roncruiser

I enjoyed reading your rant. Get a life I support your effort in not playing anymore for your own health. Hence your head will .
Maybe it already did.

Making the bucks like they do... those exec's and CEO's get paid to not be idiots. You're a crack-up. Keep posting though... very entertaining.

If I can't have Vaseline, at least give me my dignity.

[AClotfelter]

On a roll

[Darkflame808]

The reason they do not want to release the phone yet is because the iPhone is launching.

When you decide to launch a product you have take a look at the market demand. If the world is raving about on device, to simply introduce another device will hurt sales because the focus is on the "one device".

A better approach is to see how this device works. Identify the faults then make your device better by correcting it. Now when the fad dies out you can come out of the woodworks with your device. Faster, more features and better tweaked for public consumption. It will be your turn to shine.

Why spend millions marketing a product that will be gravely overshadowed by another.

That's like trying to present your golden egg on the public access channel during the superbowl on superbowl Sunday.

Maybe sprint hacked all the other carriers and downloaded all the statistical data that suggests that the biggest month that will contain contracts that are expiring is September. School kids will want it for school. November brings biggest sales numbers and December brings gifted contracts.

That's my take.

[The Doctor]

Originally Posted by berry_lthird

It must be a game or something. It MUST be. Seriously. How obvious could it be that the upgrade to one of the most popular Pocket PC devices (Titan/Mogul) would be on EVERYONE's wish list? They have to know, these corporate puppets, who make us wait on devices like the Raphael.

Look at the f-in iPhone. Over one million sold already, and the damned thing hasn't been out for a month yet. What--are they trying to create anticipation artificially? Is this waiting game entirely contrived? It has to be. No one can be that stupid, could they? I almost refuse to believe that HTC, Sprint, Verizon, and all the other bed mates could be so dumb as to screw something like this up on accident. It has to be on purpose. I just has to be.

No one can be that dumb.

The problem is that they know they will make a buck no matter what. They rest on their laurels because for all intents and purposes they have NO COMPETITORS other than the iPhone. They know the geeks will wait as long as we have to to get our nerdy paws on one. And they know that the average consumer is about as smart as a can of yellow cling peaches.

I'm sick of being teased like this....so much so that I've thought about getting a basic LG music phone called the Chocolate 3. Simple design. Mini USB port for data and charging. Standard 3.5mm headphone jack. USB wall charger. Transflash support. FM Radio broadcast. Smart.

So we get a new Windows Mobile device. Then we have to hack it. Then we have to patch it. Then we have to wait some more for new features to leak. Then we have to patch again. Boom. Wow. GPS. SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING DAY 1!!!

I'm really annoyed and sick of this crap. It's all a corporate game, and I'm so ed right now, I'm strongly considering not playing anymore.

You are RIGHT. I agree fully.
I do however think you should go discuss this with each and every C.E.O. you can find, in person...
you know, maybe catch them on their way into work in the parking grage, or at the grocery store or maybe at home on Sunday.
(so as not to take up their oh-so valuable time)

Then maybe they will understand.

[roncruiser]

I'm just as anxious for the Touch Pro as anyone else that's interested. HTC knows what it's doing. They have expectations and projections to meet as a company. Fanb0ys are last on the list to be satisfied.

[berry_lthird]

Originally Posted by roncruiser

I'm just as anxious for the Touch Pro as anyone else that's interested. HTC knows what it's doing. They have expectations and projections to meet as a company. Fanb0ys are last on the list to be satisfied.

That's not always true: Apple has so far been accommodating to it's loyal following with the iPhone. It's just their specifications come up short.