Camera Settings

[lefty11]

I also am in agreement that the pic quality is not quite the same as the TP1 was. I was quite happy with the TP1 pic quality as far as a pda type phone goes. I would have thought 3.2 Megapixels on the new TP2 would have meant better pics ESPECIALLY with default settings. I do not want to have to go back and do editing on pics I take with a phone, nor should you have to just to get the quality . I have noticed that the pics it takes have a lighter colored/whiteness to the top portion of the image as can be noticed in the pics jimmiekain posted (post setting change) . This seems to be more pronounced in outdoor scenarios, regardless of sun/cloudy/overcast conditions. I wonder if this might actually have more to do with the cover of the phone and how well it filters out glare , etc from the actual lens. I am using this camera in a pinch at work when i am in the field to take pics and compared to my old TP 1 (settings adjusted or not, the quality is definitely not the same. It's not a deal breaker on the phone but considering the price, I would think it would be at least as good as the TP1(Sorry Might Mike, I disagree). I love my TP2 and wouldnt trade it for the TP1 but I also wish they had done a bit more improvement in the camera aspect. Not to mention the lack of a flash for low light..( that part really sucks) .

[bast525]

lowering the sharpness did help a bit.... the pictures do look 'soft' but it's better than when then look like crappy webcam photos. I also do NOT rely on the Auto setting for ISO. It seems to give way to much noise in bright light, while not compensating enough in low light and giving a very blurry shot. When I manually set the ISO I get much less noise in daylight (always 100 or 200 ISO), and can actually get a decent shot in dim lighting (800 ISO, lots of image noise but usually no blur from an unsteady hand).

Still not very good, but passable and useable in a pinch which is I guess all we can expect....

[typester]

i'm one more for for the touch pro 1. i use my phone to take pictures of documents and convert them to PDF for faxing...and i'm having a heck of a time with the tp2 whereas i had no issues with my tp1.
disappointing, but maybe some good cooks can bake us some better settings and fix it.
if i remember right, my AT&T Tilt was very bad before flashing, but then took decent pictures after. In fact i remember for sure my T-Mobile MDA took WAY better pictures after new settings were released, they were 100% unusable prior to the new settings.
But it is sad that i have pictures i've been comparing to my OLD Sony Clie and they were still better than any pictues i've taken from a similar device since. and that was like 2001!

[JZ*]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Another thng. Make 100% sure theres no finger prints in the lens!

This point can't be missed...I wipe mine off before every camera use!

[Siflan]

As most of you should realize, the quality of the shot depends on lighting, hand movement and a few other things. So, where you can get a very good shot of a pic with either the TP1 or 2, you can also get bad quality with both. It is the same hardware, so just keep that in mind.

[jmorton10]

Originally Posted by Siflan

It is the same hardware, so just keep that in mind.

it is supposed to be, but why are people that where happy with their TP camera unhappy with their TP2 images??

~John

[santod]

I had mentioned earlier and will again.

In my opinion, everyone is experiencing the effects of taking an image of equal quality and displaying it over a higher resolution, more dots per inch. If you look at a small window of video on your desktop PC and then make it full screen, you will see degradation, except in Hi Def video situations.

So, the pixel count on our screen has increased, yet the pixel count of the image has remained the same as it was on our TP1's. Which image below appears to be the clearest?




I haven't tried this, yet I'm willing to bet if you took a picture with your TP2 and resized it properly to the resolution of a TP1 photo, ithey would be equal!

[freeza]

Originally Posted by santod

I had mentioned earlier and will again.

In my opinion, everyone is experiencing the effects of taking an image of equal quality and displaying it over a higher resolution, more dots per inch. If you look at a small window of video on your desktop PC and then make it full screen, you will see degradation, except in Hi Def video situations.

So, the pixel count on our screen has increased, yet the pixel count of the image has remained the same as it was on our TP1's. Which image below appears to be the clearest?




I haven't tried this, yet I'm willing to bet if you took a picture with your TP2 and resized it properly to the resolution of a TP1 photo, ithey would be equal!

A lot of people were talking about pulling the pictures right off of their phones and looking at them on the computer....taken at the same size..

[santod]

"A lot of people were talking about pulling the pictures right off of their phones and looking at them on the computer....taken at the same size.. " __________________

I sure must have missed where this is located. Also, it is not possible for them to have been taken at the same size, they aren't. However the TP2 image could be resized on the pc to match the size of the TP1 image. If this has been demonstrated by anyone, please point me to it.

[freeza]

Originally Posted by santod

"A lot of people were talking about pulling the pictures right off of their phones and looking at them on the computer....taken at the same size.. " __________________

I sure must have missed where this is located. Also, it is not possible for them to have been taken at the same size, they aren't. However the TP2 image could be resized on the pc to match the size of the TP1 image. If this has been demonstrated by anyone, please point me to it.

Well, I meant at the same resolution, since they both are 3.2MP cameras.