Pro 2 is Also missing 3d accelaration. Confirmed!

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

As stated before, the drivers would improve the speed of the OS and applications in general, nto only that, it would save battery life. There are many business applications like Remote Desktop and VNC which requires rendering.

If that is Ur concern, to add battery life and better performance on Apps, I don't think U should be looking for a 3D GPU performance. Just wait for an OS Update. That is basically What Updates/Upgrades do.

Originally Posted by gTen

I still have a Mogul...Obviously memory is an issue, but if your gonna prick every point, iPhone didn't have 3g when it came out.

I did not prick on every point. U stated a bogus claim that Mogul is better than the 1st gen in every way. SO i sighted some examples. Plus, Mogul did not come with 3G out of the box.We waited several months and tireless hacking and modding. Then the Update came out with 6.1, Unlock the GPS and Rev.a

Originally Posted by gTen

Yes..thats called fashion, they set a "fashion" trend...Pre prob resembles a vogue more though..lol.

Now Iphone became fashion.If ur definition of innovation is fashion, I will agree with U. Oh yeah, Pre resembles the Vogue coz Vogue has multi touch, accelerometer, Internal memory and capacitive screen.

Originally Posted by gTen

I don't care for multitouch....as for browsing, i preferred the old PIE and Minimo...I usually don't need a "full" display and if I did I used remote desktop to use a real browser. Due to lack of video drivers rendering webpages is a hassle.

This is where U can tell a person is not familiar with an Iphone and stating claims about it. Contrary to popular beliefs, browsing, pinch zooming is just 2 of multi touch's benefits. Iphone does not have buttons aside from the home button. MUlti touch is used mainly for games that needs a lot of buttons. Like the button on ur game consoles controller. Multi touch permits U to tap more than 1 point at a time just like when U use ur consoles controler. Example. Hadooooken!
And he prefer the old PIE. I know U will say that to avoid pwnage.

Originally Posted by gTen

...have you even read htcclassaction.org? this is what the TILT promised:



Notice games and video is there




thats nice but graphic performance wise, my ppc6700 can out perform my mogul :/

Notice it didn't say what kind of games too?

[gTen]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

If that is Ur concern, to add battery life and better performance on Apps, I don't think U should be looking for a 3D GPU performance. Just wait for an OS Update. That is basically What Updates/Upgrades do.

I think I mentioned 50 times by now I'm more interested in 2d drivers rather then 3d..And GPU would increase battery life as stated in the specs. Understand that by the processor doing the graphics, it is also hindering the processor performance as well.

I did not prick on every point. U stated a bogus claim that Mogul is better than the 1st gen in every way. SO i sighted some examples. Plus, Mogul did not come with 3G out of the box.We waited several months and tireless hacking and modding. Then the Update came out with 6.1, Unlock the GPS and Rev.a

Point out where I said its better in every way? I'm sure even some flip phones have some features that neither our phones nor iphone has. The discussion was particularly about cpu and gpu hardware and to that I was referring to.

Now Iphone became fashion.If ur definition of innovation is fashion, I will agree with U. Oh yeah, Pre resembles the Vogue coz Vogue has multi touch, accelerometer, Internal memory and capacitive screen.

I was referring to everyone trying to make their phone look like an iPhone..

This is where U can tell a person is not familiar with an Iphone and stating claims about it. Contrary to popular beliefs, browsing, pinch zooming is just 2 of multi touch's benefits. Iphone does not have buttons aside from the home button. MUlti touch is used mainly for games that needs a lot of buttons. Like the button on ur game consoles controller. Multi touch permits U to tap more than 1 point at a time just like when U use ur consoles controler. Example. Hadooooken!
And he prefer the old PIE. I know U will say that to avoid pwnage.

I personally prefer more buttons...and I don't care about gaming..I want it for business use. There is no Hadooooken! on my spreadsheets or remote management (shocking I know)

Notice it didn't say what kind of games too?

it said rich multimedia, video and games...while vague thats like you going out to order a big mac and get a burger the size of a penny...and since HTC later on removed it from the site to hide it, this proves that they are guilty as charged.

To anyones definition, I don't think that solitaire you would consider "rich"

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by gTen

I think I mentioned 50 times by now I'm more interested in 2d drivers rather then 3d..And GPU would increase battery life as stated in the specs. Understand that by the processor doing the graphics, it is also hindering the processor performance as well.



Point out where I said its better in every way? I'm sure even some flip phones have some features that neither our phones nor iphone has. The discussion was particularly about cpu and gpu hardware and to that I was referring to.



I was referring to everyone trying to make their phone look like an iPhone..



I personally prefer more buttons...and I don't care about gaming..I want it for business use. There is no Hadooooken! on my spreadsheets or remote management (shocking I know)





it said rich multimedia, video and games...while vague thats like you going out to order a big mac and get a burger the size of a penny...and since HTC later on removed it from the site to hide it, this proves that they are guilty as charged.

To anyones definition, I don't think that solitaire you would consider "rich"

agreed.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

Point out where I said its better in every way? I'm sure even some flip phones have some features that neither our phones nor iphone has. The discussion was particularly about cpu and gpu hardware and to that I was referring to.

Originally Posted by gTen

Edit:
And by the way..WM is not playing catchup....the Titan is superior to the original iPhone in all ways aside from iPhone having a bigger screen...all iPhone did was introduce touchscreen to the casual consumer. Only with the iPhone 3gs did they get somewhat superior hardware..but thats the carriers fault for taking so long to release..let em show you cycle

I underlined it for U

[jethro_static]

So the purpose of this thread is to have HTC give it's drivers for a better phone performance. Not graphics? LMAO! Exiled keep on pointing out how better Iphone 3D engine than HTC. Even posted few videos of the 2 apps running on both devices. Posted it in onother thread too. Now he's like. "agreed" this really make me laugh today. Exiled. Ur a tool. HAHAHA!

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

I think I mentioned 50 times by now I'm more interested in 2d drivers rather then 3d..And GPU would increase battery life as stated in the specs. Understand that by the processor doing the graphics, it is also hindering the processor performance as well.



Point out where I said its better in every way? I'm sure even some flip phones have some features that neither our phones nor iphone has. The discussion was particularly about cpu and gpu hardware and to that I was referring to.



I was referring to everyone trying to make their phone look like an iPhone..



I personally prefer more buttons...and I don't care about gaming..I want it for business use. There is no Hadooooken! on my spreadsheets or remote management (shocking I know)





it said rich multimedia, video and games...while vague thats like you going out to order a big mac and get a burger the size of a penny...and since HTC later on removed it from the site to hide it, this proves that they are guilty as charged.

To anyones definition, I don't think that solitaire you would consider "rich"

U keep on pointing what U want. Does not really matter what U want. What matter is where the Direction of the device is going.

[pbeaul]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Your comparing forks and spoons and eating on the floor, so i wouldnt start flaming genius. When the Mogul, kaiser,Pro and the rest of the new gens came out.. they indeed get labeled as Multimedia devices. Multimedia means across the board in pics,vids and 2d/3d rendering. Look at Best Buy.. they advertise this phone as a Multimedia Device. You fail to see you flaw and choose to insult after you compared this argument to eating on the floor.

PS. your (hint: already has driver) is not the proper driver. In case you missed the point.

You seriously need to work on that reading comprehension. I was not arguing about eating on the floor... I was debunking how retarded both your and gTen's arguments were. But I shouldn't expect you to comprehend the difference.

I didn't miss the point... you just seem to keep wanting to as if it's going to change the fact that HTC isn't obligated to provide a driver. Everyone understand that you think they should include the "proper" driver. What you seem to be unable to comprehend is that it's HTC's prerogative, not yours.

You however, get the opportunity of picking the device that best suits your needs. If hardware acceleration is so important to you than pick a phone that has that feature and be done with it. I really don't get why you're pissing and moaning on this forum ad nauseum as if it's going to make a difference. Please, just go buy the iJesus phone and live happily ever after with your hardware 2d/3d acceleration.

If you really want to change things send HTC corporate a letter + pictures of you with an iPhone and tell them the reason why you got your iPhone over a touch pro 2 is because it has proper hardware acceleration. Who knows you might convince them to release a driver and then the rest of us naysayers can thank you until the end of time.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

I underlined it for U

Okay, I may have been a bit "General", I meant to say it as far as performance/visual hardware specs. You can notice that by me referring to the iPhone 3gs after that that was what I was referring to. I rather not argue about things like mogul is better irDA port or etc..>.>

So the purpose of this thread is to have HTC give it's drivers for a better phone performance. Not graphics? LMAO! Exiled keep on pointing out how better Iphone 3D engine than HTC. Even posted few videos of the 2 apps running on both devices. Posted it in onother thread too. Now he's like. "agreed" this really make me laugh today. Exiled. Ur a tool. HAHAHA!

He did not say that the TP2 should have a snap dragon or Tegra did he? all he asked was for the drivers..it is obvious that even with drivers it would not beat an iPhone 3gs...

The touch pro 2 is suppose to be the last one on the MSM72XX line in this for factor...HTC could have at least thrown us a bone at the end?

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

Okay, I may have been a bit "General", I meant to say it as far as performance/visual hardware specs. You can notice that by me referring to the iPhone 3gs after that that was what I was referring to. I rather not argue about things like mogul is better irDA port or etc..>.>



He did not say that the TP2 should have a snap dragon or Tegra did he? all he asked was for the drivers..it is obvious that even with drivers it would not beat an iPhone 3gs...

He asked for a driver and use Iphone 3GS as a comparison. So what best an Iphone 3GS will offer?

Oh common pls. IrDA port. That is obsolete that it why it's taken off the next gen phones coz it's useless.

Ok. I prolly did not understand what he really meant. But asking for a 3D rendering driver and using Iphones capability to render 3D sounds like he's asking to have the TP2's 3D to be atleast close to Iphone. He did not mention anything about having a better battery life or anything like that.

Nobody knows at first that the MSM72xx chip can match the Iphone 3GS untill I explained it. U even said that we don't need Tegra or Snapdragon on 1 of your post. U said that te MSM72xx chip may be as good if not better than Iphones GPU. I said it can't be.

Anyways, I will not argue no more since ur making my point irrelevant.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

So the purpose of this thread is to have HTC give it's drivers for a better phone performance. Not graphics? LMAO! Exiled keep on pointing out how better Iphone 3D engine than HTC. Even posted few videos of the 2 apps running on both devices. Posted it in onother thread too. Now he's like. "agreed" this really make me laugh today. Exiled. Ur a tool. HAHAHA!

Ahhh... no name calling please. Just makes you look like a ignoramus. I agreed to the points he made. That does not mean my opinion has changed as a whole. Gezzzzz.. lol