Touch Pro 2 FM Radio Questions/Answers

[DavidinCT]

WOW, so, I spend a little time looking to somethig, just to see there was anything really new about this subject and look into myself to check it out to make sure every thing is on. Really people...Do you have to be jerks about it ?

Originally Posted by Snoman002

Hell, might as well call Sprint/Verizion/whoever tech support level 1 and ask them the exact date Android 3.0 is going to be released.

This about a feature on a Windows Mobile based phone...what does any of it have to do with Android ? Never mind a version of Android that is not even out yet, why not call up Sprint/Verizion/whoever and ask them about Windows phon 7.1 ? Duh..

This only came up again because somone on XDA had an idea to look at it again, to take a 2nd view at it....

Hmmm....Android...gives me an idea..

Android on the TP2....on the GSM version of it, has anyone attempted to get the radio working on Android ? If so, has anyone attempted to run the software for the radio on the CDMA version ?

This would clear it up, once and for all....

[Miami_Son]

Originally Posted by DavidinCT

Most of those leaked roms, AS I UNDERSTAND are not from HTC, they are from Microsoft. Some stuff gets leaked but, with some companies, it's only what they want leaked. VZW/Sprint didn't want it enabled, why would someone leak it ?

You obviously don't understand software licensing. M$ does NOT create or release ROMs for WinMo phones. They are developed by the phone manufacturers who simply pay M$ a licensing fee for using WinMo on their phones. Any development of the phone is done using the M$ SDK, but that's about the extent of M$'s involvement. As for any ancillary apps included by the manufacturer, they are developed in-house. For instance, HTC developed TF3D and Sense, not M$. If there is a software implementation of hardwar, like the FM radio, it is done by the phone manufacturer. It is their responsibility for that app and trying to get M$ to give you tech support for something outside the OS would be a waste of time. The M$ SDK may make it possible to implement something like an FM radio, but it is the device manufacturer that is responsible for the hardware and software to actually make it work.

[Kliptik]

Originally Posted by Miami_Son

You obviously don't understand software licensing. M$ does NOT create or release ROMs for WinMo phones. They are developed by the phone manufacturers who simply pay M$ a licensing fee for using WinMo on their phones. Any development of the phone is done using the M$ SDK, but that's about the extent of M$'s involvement. As for any ancillary apps included by the manufacturer, they are developed in-house. For instance, HTC developed TF3D and Sense, not M$. If there is a software implementation of hardwar, like the FM radio, it is done by the phone manufacturer. It is their responsibility for that app and trying to get M$ to give you tech support for something outside the OS would be a waste of time. The M$ SDK may make it possible to implement something like an FM radio, but it is the device manufacturer that is responsible for the hardware and software to actually make it work.

I think he's trying to say that HTC is making it sound like it IS in the OS.

[redd214]

no one "deserves" to get flamed, people are constantly bringing up old topics over and over. All the guy is trying to do is help. You may believe its a lost cause but if he wants to research it further then so be it why does what he does bother you so much? Is it really that intrusive in your life that you have to constantly insult him? Come on dude, no need for name calling we arent in elementary school anymore.

[boredandtattooed]

you right, people bring up old topics all the time.. and those topics have answers atleast..

the Radio topic has answers as well.. the answer being its NOT Happening!!!

Your right, were not in elementary school anymore, therefore someone slinggin mudd on the web shouldnt be very bother some.. were adults, should be able to handle some insults without taking it to personally..

If Dave posts somewhere else about other topics, theyll be no flamming.. but as far as this post goes, thats really the only thing to do.. theres nothing NEW to offer and NEVER will there be...

[Miami_Son]

Originally Posted by Kliptik

I think he's trying to say that HTC is making it sound like it IS in the OS.

That would be putting too much stock in what someone had to say. How many times have you spoken to a customer service rep for some company and been told one thing only to be told something else by a different rep? I wouldn't accept on face value anything from HTC on this. The people responsible for the decision to neuter the FM radio are way higher up than customer service reps and I seriously doubt they shared their motivations with them. Anything a rep has to say on this is pure conjecture.

[DavidinCT]

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

you right, people bring up old topics all the time.. and those topics have answers atleast..

the Radio topic has answers as well.. the answer being its NOT Happening!!!

Your right, were not in elementary school anymore, therefore someone slinggin mudd on the web shouldnt be very bother some.. were adults, should be able to handle some insults without taking it to personally..

If Dave posts somewhere else about other topics, theyll be no flamming.. but as far as this post goes, thats really the only thing to do.. theres nothing NEW to offer and NEVER will there be...

Ah, more productive posts.... It does sound like first grade stuff.

So what ? Old topic that must piss you off somehow....WAAAAAAAAA

Dude, get a life..

[WarChild]

First of all boredandtattooed you WILL NOT be flaming on this site and if you do you wont be apart of this community anymore. It's not something we condone nor will we allow it. You have been here long enough to know better and we expect more out of you than the way you are acting.
On another note.
This needs to stay on topic "Touch Pro 2 FM Radio Questions/Answers" Any other discussions belong in a PM.




CW

[mstevens]

Originally Posted by DavidinCT

Again, QUOTE FROM HTC...

"As I previously mentioned, the hardware in your device is identical to that of the GSM sister with the difference of the Cellular antenna."

Every tech support drone on the planet is completely knowledgeable and is always right. Except the one who sent you that email.

Originally Posted by DavidinCT

No idea on why a ROM from GSM would brick a phone (maybe some command when it starts up looks for the wrong antenna bricks it ?), also the fact that we are using an un-offical method to unlock phones, it might have something to do with it...

An antenna is a piece of metal. All antennas look alike to software, even if some actually work and some don't.

If the hardware were actually identical apart from the antenna, the software would have no way of knowing whether it was being asked to run a GSM device or a CDMA one and would not brick either.

[imnuts]

Originally Posted by Miami_Son

Whatever. Brick or no brick, it sure seems like if the hardware is identical, as stated, that a ROM of either flavor would work to the point of at least getting through boot up. I mean if the only difference is the antenna then it should boot up with either ROM and then possibly not make calls due to the antenna. It not being able to take a GSM ROM tells me there is something hardware related that is in the way.

Install a battery driver made for a different device. It's only there to help with power management and tell the phone how much battery is remaining, so it's not that critical of a driver really, at least as far as OS function goes. It will do the same thing. VZW's latest MR2 update for the TP2 had a bad file in it that kept the device from booting if you had an unlocked phone. The file didn't have any function at all, but it still kept the phone from booting up if it was unlocked.

These devices aren't like a normal computer, they don't have a library of generic drivers to fall back on, and they don't have a bunch of debugging stuff built in to the underlying OS. Space is limited, so if something doesn't come back right, it just stops and doesn't skip over it or anything, it just stops where it is, maybe restarts and tries again, but it's still fairly limited on what it will do.

Nearly all of the hardware is identical to the TP1 outside of the screen, try flashing a TP1 ROM to a TP2 device and it will get the same result as flashing a GSM TP2 ROM to a CDMA TP2 device.