i believe its time , poor phone ..

[elesbb]

alright getting my 6th maybe 7th replacement tomorrow within a year . im sick of all these problems .. i love wm6.x but this phone is beigining to drive me nuts . i have my one year upgrade available , epic .. or evo shift ? i need a full hardware keyboard . i like the display o the epic and the front facing camera . however , the responsivenss of the shift is unbeatable .. im really stuck btw these 2 phones .

[elesbb]

im mostly leaning towards the evo shit .. as i can just tether in order to cam with friends .. its not a big deal not having that front facing camera ..

[gTen]

The dark side beckons...I have an Epic and its responsiveness is really good as well..you can disable transition animation for instant responses..part of the waiting is the animation transition...you can make it even faster by loading up ext4, and even more faster once we get gingerbread..

Let me ask you this what do you use your phone for and what do you expect from the phone..based on that I can give you a better suggestion..

[ymarker]

I'm waiting for the evo 3d

[elesbb]

Originally Posted by ymarker

I'm waiting for the evo 3d

no physical keyboard . not for me .

Originally Posted by gTen

Let me ask you this what do you use your phone for and what do you expect from the phone..based on that I can give you a better suggestion..

Good point .. well ive mainly been limited to what my phone can do . but ,
listed in order of preference ..
1. calling
2. texting
3. tethering
4. entertainment(youtube music pictures)
5. games

i think id be happy with the shit , i love the metal construction . as far as speed , the one in the sprint store just blazes . and ive never seen a displayed electronic device perform as well as that did . the shift is nice , but feels like i can crush it with my hands .. however the screen is nice .. and its the hard glass too .. ugh decisions decisions -.-

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by elesbb

no physical keyboard . not for me .



Good point .. well ive mainly been limited to what my phone can do . but ,
listed in order of preference ..
1. calling
2. texting
3. tethering
4. entertainment(youtube music pictures)
5. games

i think id be happy with the shift , i love the metal construction . as far as speed , the one in the sprint store just blazes . and ive never seen a displayed electronic device perform as well as that did . the shift is nice , but feels like i can crush it with my hands .. however the screen is nice .. and its the hard glass too .. ugh decisions decisions -.-

ugh no please no!! looks like we are about to lose another one to the likes of that rusting robot (and I do mean rusting) no lo puedo creer. anyway u seem to have some basic needs andthe arrive kicks ass at meeting them (except for the tethering which will be corrected when mango comes out or if someone exploits nodo. whichever first). mango is going to be huge and due to the built in Facebook chat,windows live and aim. it almost seems as if multitasking is hardly even needed as most usually do with it is text,websurf,listen to music and have an IM app open. I know I did this on my tp2. or u can even just stick with the tp2 and just use the touchscreen keyboard since the f key on the keyboard not working is the only problem ur having with it. I rarely used the keyboard on my tp2 and don't use it on my arrive unless im cooling down my overheating battery which is also a result of my sprint service going bad again because they can't seem to upgrade the capacity.

ps I fixed ur typo.

[elesbb]

Originally Posted by eric12341

ugh no please no!! looks like we are about to lose another one to the likes of that rusting robot (and I do mean rusting) no lo puedo creer. anyway u seem to have some basic needs andthe arrive kicks ass at meeting them (except for the tethering which will be corrected when mango comes out or if someone exploits nodo. whichever first). mango is going to be huge and due to the built in Facebook chat,windows live and aim. it almost seems as if multitasking is hardly even needed as most usually do with it is text,websurf,listen to music and have an IM app open. I know I did this on my tp2. or u can even just stick with the tp2 and just use the touchscreen keyboard since the f key on the keyboard not working is the only problem ur having with it. I rarely used the keyboard on my tp2 and don't use it on my arrive unless im cooling down my overheating battery which is also a result of my sprint service going bad again because they can't seem to upgrade the capacity.

ps I fixed ur typo.

ha thanks eric .. im sick of the "f" key not working , and i cant simply not use the hardware keyboard as i use it allllllll the time . And i played around with the arrive at the store , i dont like that its not 4g .. the OS is phenomenal though . IMHO , hands down better than iOS and android . Still has its tweaks and bugs , but what doesnt ? the overall conept and idea is astounding . Just the phone isnt for me :/ . I hate that the phone tilts automatically when sliding it open .. thats dumb .. they should have kept it like the TP2 is .

Adding to the list of things i do , mobile browsing is also prolly number one with calling . as far as multitasking , i also do a lot of writing on my phone , like typing . thats why i use the hardware keyboard a lot . cant live without it .

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by elesbb

ha thanks eric .. im sick of the "f" key not working , and i cant simply not use the hardware keyboard as i use it allllllll the time . And i played around with the arrive at the store , i dont like that its not 4g .. the OS is phenomenal though . IMHO , hands down better than iOS and android . Still has its tweaks and bugs , but what doesnt ? the overall conept and idea is astounding . Just the phone isnt for me :/ . I hate that the phone tilts automatically when sliding it open .. thats dumb .. they should have kept it like the TP2 is .

Adding to the list of things i do , mobile browsing is also prolly number one with calling . as far as multitasking , i also do a lot of writing on my phone , like typing . thats why i use the hardware keyboard a lot . cant live without it .

4G doesn't really mean much. 3G is good enough provided that the network isn't stressed out. Last week I was able to watch Netflix at SDTV quality,high quality YouTube and dailymotion videos without interruption. so if 3G can do that then who needs 4G? the only thing 4G might solve is the pausing of data activity when a text comes in/out.

as for the keyboard if u don't slide it all the way back it won't tilt. choice is urs tho so good luck.

[Maxx134]

Originally Posted by elesbb

alright getting my 6th maybe 7th replacement tomorrow within a year . im sick of all these problems ...

Ha! I know how you feel,
my first TP2 was great,
lasting slightly over a year with no screen protector.
then the middle part of the miniUSB bent off.

Second unit was sloppy old feeling and slower, & battery hungry.
I had forgotten I set an app to keep it on 1x to save battery. (link in my sig on battey)
Even with a hard reset AND factory flash, the radio part stayed on 1x!
A simple re-instalation of the app to change the setting woould have fixed it,
but since I 4got, I brought in and got another refurb

Third unit TP2 touch screen stopped working!(digitizer),
because I kept rubbing and buffing to clean my screen protector,
and also the heat/pressure from my pants pocket onto the screen.

When I it brought in, they told me they had 2 replace it anyway,
because of the missing "Send" hard key button, that came off!,
when I used tape to pull screen up as temp fix for the screen.
but tape grabbed button and when I lifted, it came offf!

My currrent forth unit I got lucky as it actually has new keyboard,
hardkey buttons, and sliding mechanizim.
Plus it overclocks fastest than the others at 768Mhz.
Thats the main prob with refurbs,
getting one thats not sloppily put together,
and overclocks higher like the newer production date units.

[elesbb]

Originally Posted by Maxx134

Ha! I know how you feel,
my first TP2 was great,
lasting slightly over a year with no screen protector.
then the middle part of the miniUSB bent off.

Second unit was sloppy old feeling and slower, & battery hungry.
I had forgotten I set an app to keep it on 1x to save battery. (link in my sig on battey)
Even with a hard reset AND factory flash, the radio part stayed on 1x!
A simple re-instalation of the app to change the setting woould have fixed

This also works with the SwitchRoamMode app ^^

it,
but since I 4got, I brought in and got another refurb

Third unit TP2 touch screen stopped working!(digitizer),
because I kept rubbing and buffing to clean my screen protector,
and also the heat/pressure from my pants pocket onto the screen.

When I it brought in, they told me they had 2 replace it anyway,
because of the missing "Send" hard key button, that came off!,
when I used tape to pull screen up as temp fix for the screen.
but tape grabbed button and when I lifted, it came offf!

My currrent forth unit I got lucky as it actually has new keyboard,
hardkey buttons, and sliding mechanizim.
Plus it overclocks fastest than the others at 768Mhz.
Thats the main prob with refurbs,
getting one thats not sloppily put together,
and overclocks higher like the newer production date units.

Yeah i think its time to leave the TP2 behind for me .. im just fed up .. i like it . but no phone should have to be replaced 7 times within a year .. -.-