Who plans to go HD2?

[rorytmeadows]

Originally Posted by p-slim

i think you guys are losing the technology battle with sporklover. his statements are factual and honestly starting wimax now and keeping up with tmobiles supposed switch to 10mg download hypothetically and then switching to lte without that much hassel (will probably just require purchasing new devices) does seem like a good way to go, I definitely won't mind the speed increase while they take another year or 2 to roll out lte.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/c...ents/21735206/

Straight from the comments section of the article he linked.

[Mr.KLeen]

I see we are still having the carrier battle. it will never come to an end lol.

[Dragon2]

Originally Posted by p-slim

it does depend on where you and in the majority of the areas sprint wins, of course to say sprint will win in every single city is irrate. So for people who travel alot, i don't want to travel to a city and have to miss a single phone call. Every call on my line could be $ in my pocket and to miss a call because of my service provider, I would be kicking my own ass for going with tmobile.

i can agree with that statement........

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SporkLover

P-Slims point wasn't that Sprint's network is as good as Verizon's BECAUSE it's CDMA, it was that because due to being CDMA carriers, they have roaming agreements. With Sprint roaming is free. So wherever the Verizon network is, you can get Sprint service, and vice versa. That was the underlying logic.

While the logic is sound, in execution it's not so rosy. Data roaming limits you to 1x, even when evdo is available, and sprint forces their customers on the sprint network, even when the coverage from verizon is ten times better, and sprints coverage is unreliable.

you are correct but from what i've noticed is the places where sprint doesn't get good service and i have to roam on the verizon network, in those areas verizon isn't receiving a evdo rev a signal, they are just the strongest 1x provider which means the data speeds are still the same. this is most of the time not always.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by p-slim

according to your maps, tmobile had the worse but it was better when you included roaming covergage. Tmobile doesn't roam on cdma, So when sprint roams ( and roaming is free) we just jump on the best coverage provider's network, so technically we have the best coverage as well.

Roaming is free but limited on Sprint...

[ps2phreek]

I think i'd miss the keyboard a little too much, its the only things stopping me from trying out an Android phone!

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Roaming is free but limited on Sprint...

roaming is free on sprint but only to 50% of your calls. if 50% of my calls i had to roam to make a call, I would switch providers.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by SporkLover

My opinion is that if you have no technical knowledge of the technologies, then your opinion is worthless.

And yes, I do know, and if you want to stick to what Bill Morrow has said, then read this http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/c...uld-be-easy-t/

A software update. Most of their infrastructure will support both standards. Overnight software update.

On your other opinion, on releasing the statement to appease stock holders. Your timing was off, so yes I disagree. They released it well ahead of any Sprint quarter performance results.

Here are the facts. WiMax is a 4G technology here today, it's not a standard in the works (LTE). They can roll out a 4G network that supports WiMax, that will build revenue for them years ahead of any competitor. If the market calls for them to switch to LTE, they can support it, and have a network that has been out there for 2 years, positioning them well ahead of competitors.

The timing was NOT off on that statement. I said they released it ahead of quarterly earnings because they didn;t want the investors (which are already calling for Hesse's head, mind you) rioting. You pointed out that they released it this quarter. So? This quarter was one of, if not thee, worst quarters in Sprint history. So the timing was right on target according to what I posted.

Now, as for the BS line that it's a simple software switch that ONLY they can do and nobody else in the world can- you really believe that? Since you're so knowledgable on this subject (as you claimed) then please explain to me why THEY can do it with a simple software switch but anyone else would have to replace all the hardware on their network? That claim is so utterly ridiculous it's laughable that anyone would even pretend to believe it.

If they can do it, then probably everyone else can too. And if nobody else in the entire world can do it, than they probably can't either.

And, again, it's hillarious that they would make this ridiculous claim during the worst stretch in Sprint's history- while investors are calling for the heads of all the executives, specifically for going with Wimax instead of LTE.

Go to yahoo, google, MSN, or any brokerage website and read the message boards there. See what investors have been saying about Sprint for months (and I am a shareholder, I have already been there so I know what you're going to find).

[p-slim]

we have two seperate issues. sprints financial situation has nothing to do with how well their service works or if they will be able to roll from wimax to lte without a hitch. we all know winmo is better in our eyes and wimo is struggling with financial sales compared to the iphone, but the hd2 is still better then the iphone.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by p-slim

since i got the tp2 i've started putting my phone in my pocket. the belt case is gone in my book.

Same here. I have the full body invisible shield with a lifetime guarantee. I just pocket the thing now, no case needed.