Mogul Update - CES News

[itsall_cooool]

Now I want rev.A, GPS ~AND~ Nextel Push-To-Talk since Sprint is now selling hybrid phones. I'm sure we can re-map one of our numerous buttons .....

[aughsum]

Originally Posted by itsall_cooool

Now I want rev.A, GPS ~AND~ Nextel Push-To-Talk since Sprint is now selling hybrid phones. I'm sure we can re-map one of our numerous buttons .....

*facepalm*

hybrid phones used iden for ptt, mogul has no iden hardware.

besides its annoying. "yo g chirp me back." "damn neyuh I be chillin wit deez hoes".. don't wanna hear it.

throughts.. the update will come out on the 28th. sprint will make good on its gps promise but it won't be standalone, the phone will be updated with the api layer for agps but it will be modified so current location hacks won't work. people will try and work around it until the next model comes out to no avail. wm 6.1 further cripples the phone in regard to ram useage. sprint cuts its losses with the mogul and releases a mogul2 in the fall that will be the exact same thing just with more ram. barely. an amount that's only 2-3 years outdated instead of 4.

does not offer free upgrades for mogul users and no tradeup options.

[pflatlyne]

Originally Posted by aughsum

*facepalm*

hybrid phones used iden for ptt, mogul has no iden hardware.

besides its annoying. "yo g chirp me back." "damn neyuh I be chillin wit deez hoes".. don't wanna hear it.

throughts.. the update will come out on the 28th. sprint will make good on its gps promise but it won't be standalone, the phone will be updated with the api layer for agps but it will be modified so current location hacks won't work. people will try and work around it until the next model comes out to no avail. wm 6.1 further cripples the phone in regard to ram useage. sprint cuts its losses with the mogul and releases a mogul2 in the fall that will be the exact same thing just with more ram. barely. an amount that's only 2-3 years outdated instead of 4.

does not offer free upgrades for mogul users and no tradeup options.

From what I was told,sprint is betting on evdo rev a to run a ptt service over IP. I understand evdo rev a has quality of service features that will make it work as well as iden,which sprint-nextel considers the gold standard of ptt. I dont know if the mogul will support this,but I heard that sprint wants to transition off iden,and the only reason they even still have it is ptt.

As for gps,everything I have read describing what agps is,says its an improvement on gps,not a gimped substitute like people seem to say. Its supposed to have the ability to run off the tower,or the sattelite or preferably both. If the gps is active,it should be usable to us even if someone has to write a peice of software to make it work. The reason we cant do it now,and cant on other similar phones is becuase its in the radio rom that we have the problem. In fact EPST can access the GPS data on the mogul. Presently it shows it as not present,but when they activate it,I bet it will show the data.

[parrott84]

Originally Posted by aughsum

*facepalm*

hybrid phones used iden for ptt, mogul has no iden hardware.

besides its annoying. "yo g chirp me back." "damn neyuh I be chillin wit deez hoes".. don't wanna hear it.

thoughts.. the update will come out on the 28th. sprint will make good on its gps promise but it won't be standalone, the phone will be updated with the api layer for agps but it will be modified so current location hacks won't work. people will try and work around it until the next model comes out to no avail. wm 6.1 further cripples the phone in regard to ram usage. sprint cuts its losses with the mogul and releases a mogul2 in the fall that will be the exact same thing just with more ram. barely. an amount that's only 2-3 years outdated instead of 4.

does not offer free upgrades for mogul users and no tradeup options.

I think what he was referring to is using Q-Chat to 'chirp'. Q-Chat is suppose to be able to connect with both i-den and the old ReadyLink system (I beleive0. The biggest thing though is that it is suppose to replace the i-den walkie talkie. So we must ask ourselves why hasn't this new, great technology been released, especially since it will allow Sprint and Nextel phones to 'chirp' one another? Because from what I understand it need Ev-DO Rev A to operate (which would/could allow the Mogul to 'chirp'). It also needs other devices, you know, like the ones being held up by the qualcomm/Broadcom lawsuit.

[eehrhard]

I dont get the whole push to talk thing. I find it annoying when I am somewhere and can hear someones PTT conversation. I guess its good for people that would normally carry a 2 way or but I dont see how I would use it at all.

[billy54554]

OH Ye of little faith. Why dont we just wait and see what shakes out. I have delayed trading my Mogul for a Touch or a Treo to see what the revision will bring. I still have my Blackberry that is GPS enabled and hoping that HTC will enable GPS on the Mogul. If not, and the current bugs arent fixed, then I'm gone. Wait and see is attitude that I have adapted. BW

[schettj]

So... you're agreeing with me that WM6.1 won't ever be offered for the mogul in a Sprint ROM?

I thought you were

i really dont think it would be a good idea to release wm6.1 for the mogul but, it would be a good fit for the touch. mainly bc wm6 is is killing the mogul's ram. it's like windows xp for your home pc, 1gb is fine. but when you have vista home prem/ult. you need at least 2gb. so in other words a new operating system requires more ram. so thats why i say wm6.1 is better for the touch

[monkey]

Originally Posted by ReD-DaWg-OnE

I was talking to some of the HTC people at the Microsoft booth and they told me Jan. 28th for the release of the update that enables Rev. A and GPS, just thought i would pass along the news.

why not have it for display with the update?

[ReD-DaWg-OnE]

Originally Posted by monkey

why not have it for display with the update?

Don't ask me, I was just relaying what i heard. They will be their tomorrow until the show closes at 3PM, feel free to ask them all th questions you want.