Mogul Update - CES News

i really dont think it would be a good idea to release wm6.1 for the mogul but, it would be a good fit for the touch. mainly bc wm6 is is killing the mogul's ram. it's like windows xp for your home pc, 1gb is fine. but when you have vista home prem/ult. you need at least 2gb. so in other words a new operating system requires more ram. so thats why i say wm6.1 is better for the touch

[aughsum]

Originally Posted by itsall_cooool

Now I want rev.A, GPS ~AND~ Nextel Push-To-Talk since Sprint is now selling hybrid phones. I'm sure we can re-map one of our numerous buttons .....

*facepalm*

hybrid phones used iden for ptt, mogul has no iden hardware.

besides its annoying. "yo g chirp me back." "damn neyuh I be chillin wit deez hoes".. don't wanna hear it.

throughts.. the update will come out on the 28th. sprint will make good on its gps promise but it won't be standalone, the phone will be updated with the api layer for agps but it will be modified so current location hacks won't work. people will try and work around it until the next model comes out to no avail. wm 6.1 further cripples the phone in regard to ram useage. sprint cuts its losses with the mogul and releases a mogul2 in the fall that will be the exact same thing just with more ram. barely. an amount that's only 2-3 years outdated instead of 4.

does not offer free upgrades for mogul users and no tradeup options.

[Vacs]

I keep asking if anyone heard if Verizon was going to have an update that would enable GPS on their version of the Mogul. Anyone on Verizon heard anything? How about nuguy?

[dishe]

NO. We have heard nothing from Verizon.
And given their track record with "enabling features", I'd give it a great big don't-hold-your-breath.

Sheesh.

[monkey]

Originally Posted by ReD-DaWg-OnE

I was talking to some of the HTC people at the Microsoft booth and they told me Jan. 28th for the release of the update that enables Rev. A and GPS, just thought i would pass along the news.

why not have it for display with the update?

[funpunx]

verizon 6800 user here. true VZW's track record for enabling features is piss poor. however, they've said from the beginning that they will be releasing firmware for Rev. A so we're getting that at the very least. GPS? i'm not holding my breathe on that one.

[ReD-DaWg-OnE]

Originally Posted by monkey

why not have it for display with the update?

Don't ask me, I was just relaying what i heard. They will be their tomorrow until the show closes at 3PM, feel free to ask them all th questions you want.

[Joeriginal]

You could ask them for a demo of the new Rom upgrade, but all they will do is take a dump in a brown paper bag and hand it to you.

[Vacs]

Yeah, before I got the Motorola razr for me & my wife I researched the phones features. Based on what I found I signed up for 2 years & bought 2 of them. By the time I discovered that Verizon purposely disabled many features on the phone the trial period was over. And to my shame I spent $30.00 for their software which was nothing but a usb driver! Its almost like buying a car only to find out that the "left turn" feature is disabled (but of course you can buy that feature for $10 bucks a month).

Because of this it wouldn't surprise me at all if Verizon disabled the GPS so they could sell the VZ Navigator service. I guess I'll wait to see what happens. If I can get GPS on a Sprint 6800 then goodbye Verizon.

PS: I wonder about the legality of all this disabling of functions on these phones. Once purchased these things are totally the customers property. If a phone company takes any measures to interfere with the owners operation of their property, where this operation has no effect on the phone companies network, then this cannot be legal. (See some of the postings concerning GPS on the 6700.)

[pflatlyne]

Originally Posted by aughsum

*facepalm*

hybrid phones used iden for ptt, mogul has no iden hardware.

besides its annoying. "yo g chirp me back." "damn neyuh I be chillin wit deez hoes".. don't wanna hear it.

throughts.. the update will come out on the 28th. sprint will make good on its gps promise but it won't be standalone, the phone will be updated with the api layer for agps but it will be modified so current location hacks won't work. people will try and work around it until the next model comes out to no avail. wm 6.1 further cripples the phone in regard to ram useage. sprint cuts its losses with the mogul and releases a mogul2 in the fall that will be the exact same thing just with more ram. barely. an amount that's only 2-3 years outdated instead of 4.

does not offer free upgrades for mogul users and no tradeup options.

From what I was told,sprint is betting on evdo rev a to run a ptt service over IP. I understand evdo rev a has quality of service features that will make it work as well as iden,which sprint-nextel considers the gold standard of ptt. I dont know if the mogul will support this,but I heard that sprint wants to transition off iden,and the only reason they even still have it is ptt.

As for gps,everything I have read describing what agps is,says its an improvement on gps,not a gimped substitute like people seem to say. Its supposed to have the ability to run off the tower,or the sattelite or preferably both. If the gps is active,it should be usable to us even if someone has to write a peice of software to make it work. The reason we cant do it now,and cant on other similar phones is becuase its in the radio rom that we have the problem. In fact EPST can access the GPS data on the mogul. Presently it shows it as not present,but when they activate it,I bet it will show the data.