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Old 12-12-2007, 06:51 PM
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NexVision is correct. Verizon HAS opened their Networks, but not many people will know what needs to be done at this time. From the information that I am aware of, this will be difficult to get switched until late 2008.

As for getting the Sprint phone on the network now, you would be best getting in contact with a Verizon Corporate Accounts manager to have the ESN number ported to Verizon's network. The company I work for provides activation services for embedded Express Modules and from time to time we have to have a customers card ported to the network they want versus paying the fees for a new card and new services.

If you contact Verizon's Technical support, do NOT talk to a supervisor, they have the same rights and restrictions that the front line techs do, request to speak witha tier 3 technician, these guys will be able to do the swap for you. Keep in mind tat it will take a little bit of time to research the number on sprints network to have it ported over.

I hope this helps,
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:07 PM
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NexVision as genius as you are.....the esn is in the verizon system so i dont need to take any of your 3 routes to getting it to work. and personally..i mean i dont wanna be mean...but i think my time is very well spent but thanks for your concern...its greatly appreciated....and shadizar i dont need anything ported...by the way..do any of u remember why i started this thread...cuz it was not for u guys to tel me whether i culd do it or not...because i pretty much already have...thanks
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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NexVision as genius as you are.....the esn is in the verizon system so i dont need to take any of your 3 routes to getting it to work. and personally..i mean i dont wanna be mean...but i think my time is very well spent but thanks for your concern...its greatly appreciated....and shadizar i dont need anything ported...by the way..do any of u remember why i started this thread...cuz it was not for u guys to tel me whether i culd do it or not...because i pretty much already have...thanks
If the ESN is in the system I do not understand the problem then your device would be working.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:49 PM
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OK OK OK u guys win!!! I have heard enough to make alexander bell himself flip over in his grave.
1st of all, getting a cdma phone to work on a network that it was not intended for is half the battle. The other half is with a phone like the 6800, which has alot of extra features which usually the specific carrier that sells the phone only supports on their network; ie; sprint vision/ cricket doesnt have evdo yet (which suxs but they are testing it right now and should be available soon) but with the right settings and reg hacks u can access the internet in its entirety using cricket/ cricket will tell u that they do not support the phone and that all u will get is phone and possibly texts messaging service/ well lucky for us this isnt so/
anyways not to get distracted, the bottom line is then how to make the right reg edits and apply certain hacks to get the rest of the features working which for the most part is very attainable, only the very very new phones would u usaully have to go without until it becomes hacked.
Now i didnt want to go into detail but it seems that unless i give u the exact way to setup a phone on another network u guys might not believe it can be done(cdma we r talking about)
first of all verizon can add and drop ESN's all day long, its nothing to them becuase they use computers and the esn # is a way to create an account.
They r now accepting phones that were made for another carrier (like cricket has been doing and making a killing) by picking up the unwanted business by sprint/verizon/alltell /qwest etc
im sure they run a credit check and i imagine that if u didnt pay your bill with a carrier, it might show up and then u could possibly get denied. But then again short of the phone being stolen why would verizon care. as long as they get paid right/ and they dont have to provide tech service either for that phone another plus/ and there are plenty of people who would flash your phone over for a few bucks, so y not take on other phones?
Master if u need some still getting your phone to work with verizon , just pm me k
there r some things that have to be done to keep settings from be replaced on a soft boot etc// and there are certain files that have to be installed for every carrier/not same files but required of the carrier/
and some of these custom dialpads do not give u full functionality when entering ## codes/

but gentlemen it is very possible to get your cdma phone working on another network and the newer the easier/ and what rom u have doesnt make any difference /
anyways hopefully i put a end to the feuding and guessing
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:28 AM
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Funny thing...

I work at Verizon Wireless in customer service (which IS tier 1 data) and I actually am in the process of being promoted to tier 3 data.

I can tell you this much - the system we use (ACSS) will prevent non-VZW ESN numbers from being activated by customer service reps, (not sure if by data reps)

I would also like to note that we're not quite as evil as you might think verizon wireless may have some evil business practices, but they DO train reps to do what's good for the customer. A rep can actually get in trouble for NOT trying to help someone (for example, if you're wasting money on a plan that's too expensive, or going over on minutes or text or maybe just plain not realizing you're a VIP customer and you haven't used your 500 amnesty minutes on a bill two months ago with overage)

Now, wether or not reps actually DO things they're supposed to... well that's another story.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:40 AM
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I work at Verizon Wireless in customer service (which IS tier 1 data) and I actually am in the process of being promoted to tier 3 data.

I can tell you this much - the system we use (ACSS) will prevent non-VZW ESN numbers from being activated by customer service reps, (not sure if by data reps)

I would also like to note that we're not quite as evil as you might think verizon wireless may have some evil business practices, but they DO train reps to do what's good for the customer. A rep can actually get in trouble for NOT trying to help someone (for example, if you're wasting money on a plan that's too expensive, or going over on minutes or text or maybe just plain not realizing you're a VIP customer and you haven't used your 500 amnesty minutes on a bill two months ago with overage)

Now, wether or not reps actually DO things they're supposed to... well that's another story.
I must say this is a wild post. I just wanted to back you up Kayin! As i am a fellow VZW employee. A bench TECH to be exact.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:52 AM
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The question u fail to answer which i would like to know is: Does verizon now sell their cell phone plans to phones that were not made for verizon network specifically? Such as they claim to do now. I admit that I cant recall if it was in the near future or currently that they were to do this. I have had several people tell me this and im sure its not hard to find the article to where this is mentioned.
So if it is true, the u should be expecting a system update, unless they are specific to the phones they will except.
thats all i would like to know, im content with cricket, easy on the pocket book
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Old 12-13-2007, 12:27 PM
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well, it's obvious that part of mastermayhm069's problem is that he couldn't change the msl/spc number on the phone so he can't get his phone programed over the air so he is probably trying to enter some of the systems values manually and that's probably why he started this thread initially so that somebody could post pictures of their EPST!! and i guess most of u guys are missing the point and going off subject. one thing could end this thread and that's if i could get pictures of some of my friends 6800's EPST today or tomorrow.

good luck mastermayhm069, i hope ur experiment works, let us all know what happens..
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Old 12-13-2007, 01:18 PM
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You can use the 6700's modem drivers to access your 6800 in QPST to change the SPC. Once the drivers are installed, dial ##DIAG# if you're running a Sprint ROM or ##DIAG[call] if you're running any other carrier's ROM and connect your device to your computer.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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I guess u guys really dont get the whole process, but then again unless u have had to or want to flash (for lack of a better word) your phone, u wouldnt quite understand/ there is NO need for someone to post a picture for master's to copy. The same things that i changed on my phone to get it to work with cricket is the same thing that master would have to change. as for as the name of the server and settings that go into accessing the carriers service directly, u can find anywhere, really just google it(what im talking about is the data, and mms settings mainly). or howards forum is pretty good with that kind of info. the part that would prevent ANY 1 from flashing to another carrier would be if they didnt have the MSL or SPC code whatever u want to call it/ there r phones that do have to have a special signal or something like that which would make them nonfunctional on certain networks(oh yea its if they have a proprietor's OS ,i think the HEILO (however u spell it) is like that)
I dont think they would want me to list exactly how to flash the 6800 phone over to another network in detail so that is y i told masters that if he needed help i would assist him and be done with it/ by the way u can manually load a prl which is the cruicial part and most needed, 2nd i think he just has the wrong prl for his are thats all/
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