NexVision as genius as you are.....the esn is in the verizon system so i dont need to take any of your 3 routes to getting it to work. and personally..i mean i dont wanna be mean...but i think my time is very well spent but thanks for your concern...its greatly appreciated....and shadizar i dont need anything ported...by the way..do any of u remember why i started this thread...cuz it was not for u guys to tel me whether i culd do it or not...because i pretty much already have...thanks