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Old 12-01-2007, 04:55 PM
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What I mean is to save all my files in a 2.17 ROM environment to backup, then install the 1.40 radio, then restore the backup.
You should be able to flash the Radio ROM without impacting your core OS.

when you flash the "Packaged 2.17" OEM ROM it flashes both parts of the ROM, OS and Radio, if you do a radio flash only you will be fine.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:09 PM
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Rom is working fine for me except there is still some memory leakage, I went from 21.05 to 16.77 in idle over the last 12 hours.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:18 PM
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Anyone who wants to help develop a formal troubleshooting/reporting process which will benefit everyone feel free to PM me with your feedback in regards to developing such a process. We can then start to clearly identify issues and attempt to resolve those which are 3rd party app related.

Imagine what we can do with a clearer idea of the root issues......maybe even get them addressed! At a minimum we can internally contribute to resolutions from internal programmers and custom ROMs.
Since I'll be developing PPC apps, I'm going to need a QA bug report form... I'll send you a first draft outline in about 10 minutes.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:52 PM
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Exclamation My Problems

I just want to say that I love the idea of listing problems so that we will help fix the issue either internally or extenally. I also would like to state that this ROM is a nice step foward(from 2.09 and 2.16). However, I still have a couple of issues:

1. Bluetooth sounds better, not quite what i experienced in 2.16 + Touch BT (sfaure03?). It also does not autoconnect with my BT headset or my Premier 980BT. I have to turn BT off and back on for it to autopair. My Moto Q and Sanyo Katana(read free phone) did this feature quite well. I haven't had any other PPC's other than a Mogul(I had a Treo 700WX; but we all know that doesn't compare), so take that how you will.
2. Memory Management - Some people here claim better memory management, but I bootup starting at ~17mb. I used to boot up from 21-23 with 2.16 and idle around 20. I could open every program I had and close it with x-button and oxios and reclaim to around 19-20mb with 2.16. Now with that being said, my phone runs quite smooth. I am ok with the performance, but the numbers do make me thiink.
3. With the new Radio I don't have lockups anymore(I switch between weak sprint and weak roaming all day at my desk). However, I don't see the triangle when I know I am roaming. Is this a huge problem? No. Does it need to be fixed? Yes, it does.
4. My outlook email from work(exchange server 03) sometimes takes a minute to open...sometimes you have to close outlook and re-open it for you to be able to view the email. I also noticed that with this ROM it won't let me sync HTML based emails(the option in activesync is grayed out). So all emails i recieve are text only.
5. Sometimes after Sliding out my keyboard and sliding it in. the bottom half of the screen displays the old way(still sideways) and only the top half is usable. This is easily fixable by hitting the start button and hitting today. But something that is not supposed to happen. I also think the transfer of picture from portait to landscape should be faster and smoother.
6. Sometimes internet explorer locks up. I have just noticed this. It doesn't respond and run like it used to in 2.16

This is with 2.17 ROM and 1.47.01. Basically, new OEM Sprint ROM; hard reset after flash and without customizations .

I have the usual suspects installed:

HTC Home + emuntz customizer
xbutton 2.0
oxios memory manager
Sprint TV
Office 6.1(It had the same email prob before this install; even on 2.16)
PPC geeks MMS
PPC 6800 Hacks
Flashlight 2.0
PHM Regedit
TouchFlo cube
Jet BT extensions
Touch Camera Album and Cube
Cingular Music ID
Lordsmiths Battery Level
6700 Stats
Effcomm


Like I stated before, good step in the right direction. However, could still use some tweaks to be considered a non-beta ROM. Take note Sprint/HTC/Microsoft.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:59 PM
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I just want to say that I love the idea of listing problems so that we will help fix the issue either internally or extenally. I also would like to state that this ROM is a nice step foward(from 2.09 and 2.16). However, I still have a couple of issues:

1. Bluetooth sounds better, not quite what i experienced in 2.16 + Touch BT (sfaure03?). It also does not autoconnect with my BT headset or my Premier 980BT. I have to turn BT off and back on for it to autopair. My Moto Q and Sanyo Katana(read free phone) did this feature quite well. I haven't had any other PPC's other than a Mogul(I had a Treo 700WX; but we all know that doesn't compare), so take that how you will.
2. Memory Management - Some people here claim better memory management, but I bootup starting at ~17mb. I used to boot up from 21-23 with 2.16 and idle around 20. I could open every program I had and close it with x-button and oxios and reclaim to around 19-20mb with 2.16. Now with that being said, my phone runs quite smooth. I am ok with the performance, but the numbers do make me thiink.
3. With the new Radio I don't have lockups anymore(I switch between weak sprint and weak roaming all day at my desk). However, I don't see the triangle when I know I am roaming. Is this a huge problem? No. Does it need to be fixed? Yes, it does.
4. My outlook email from work(exchange server 03) sometimes takes a minute to open...sometimes you have to close outlook and re-open it for you to be able to view the email. I also noticed that with this ROM it won't let me sync HTML based emails(the option in activesync is grayed out). So all emails i recieve are text only.
5. Sometimes after Sliding out my keyboard and sliding it in. the bottom half of the screen displays the old way(still sideways) and only the top half is usable. This is easily fixable by hitting the start button and hitting today. But something that is not supposed to happen. I also think the transfer of picture from portait to landscape should be faster and smoother.
6. Sometimes internet explorer locks up. I have just noticed this. It doesn't respond and run like it used to in 2.16

This is with 2.17 ROM and 1.47.01. Basically, new OEM Sprint ROM; hard reset after flash and without customizations .

I have the usual suspects installed:

HTC Home + emuntz customizer
xbutton 2.0
oxios memory manager
Sprint TV
Office 6.1(It had the same email prob before this install; even on 2.16)
PPC geeks MMS
PPC 6800 Hacks
Flashlight 2.0
PHM Regedit
TouchFlo cube
Jet BT extensions
Touch Camera Album and Cube
Cingular Music ID
Lordsmiths Battery Level
6700 Stats
Effcomm


Like I stated before, good step in the right direction. However, could still use some tweaks to be considered a non-beta ROM. Take note Sprint/HTC/Microsoft.
So the obvious question is....

How was it prior to the 3rd party apps?

in order to establish a control as to what real issues may be present all initial testing needs to be done bone stock, without 3rd party apps. As you know the minute we add anything non oem it changes the variables and this is about the core ROM performance after all.

Great breakdown, excellent example for other posters.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:16 AM
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FYI for those who didnt notice....

PRL - 2.17 comes with PRL 60608 - Newest PRL is 60610
Just a FYI, the update does come with 60610 (as did 2.16).
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:19 AM
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Just a FYI, the rom does come with 60610 (as did 2.16).
Oops, my mistake. I personally run 60610. Looking at the HTC page the pic showed 60608 which is what i was basing my statement on.
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:56 AM
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I finally decided to run the TitanUnlocker and flash back to radio 1.40, and this solved my roaming connection problems.

For those who need help, do this AT YOUR OWN RISK (and note that doing this WILL erase all your programs and data):

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?p=1538775

Download and run the above unlocker (you may need to become an xda-developers member to download, and you can unpack the RAR file with a free tool like RARZilla for windows.) This will place your phone in a mode ready to flash a new ROM.

Go to QLINKS, at the top of every PPCGeeks page, and choose "open FTP site" and navigate to Titan/Radios/140_radio.rar

Download and unpack that and you'll see a RUU directory. Navigate into that directory and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe, which is already set up to flash the 1.40 radio by itself.

After you're done, reinstall your programs and data.

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Old 12-02-2007, 03:15 AM
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I finally decided to run the TitanUnlocker and flash back to radio 1.40, and this solved my roaming connection problems.
Thanks Syn0, I've been waiting pages for this.

Geez, finally someone confirms this...
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:40 AM
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1. Bluetooth sounds better, not quite what i experienced in 2.16 + Touch BT (sfaure03?). It also does not autoconnect with my BT headset or my Premier 980BT. I have to turn BT off and back on for it to autopair.

How did you get your Mogul to pair with your 980BT? I have the same unit and it will not pair running 2.09. The Mogul sees the 980BT, but I can't get past the passkey stage. I enter 0000 and no go. With bluetooth on and the Mogul being visable, the radio will not find it during a scan either. I've reset the radio many times. I even entered another four digit code. It just will not pair. It pairs instantly with my older Samsung a940. Did yours pair with 2.09, or did 2.16/2.17 fix a compatibility problem?


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