So yeah now HTC admits the 30fps limit is software because of the HDMI port.

MrDSL · #1 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:10 PM

So instead of making a switch so the other 99% of users who DON'T use the HDMI port they just decided to be lazy and cap it at 30fps!

Got to love HTC!!!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...he-htc-evo-4g/

**redd214** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:34 PM

id say probably 90% of evo owners either wont even notice or wont even care. of course us around here care on both accounts but the overwhelming majority will never even understand what 30fps even means. i give them credit for at least admiting to it unlike that fruity compnay

rooster94 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by redd214

id say probably 90% of evo owners either wont even notice or wont even care. of course us around here care on both accounts but the overwhelming majority will never even understand what 30fps even means. i give them credit for at least admiting to it unlike that fruity compnay

So true, thats one of the reasons I wish I could be a little less techy sometimes, that way I would be happy with anything instead of always wanting the latest and greatest, and subsequently wanting to mod the latest and greatest.

MrDSL · #4 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:43 PM

I bet a lot of users notice the input touch lag but they just don't know about the 30fps.

You're right though of course the average joe dont know but the more attention we bring this the better chance we can get them to fix it.

**redd214** · #5 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:52 PM

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So true, thats one of the reasons I wish I could be a little less techy sometimes, that way I would be happy with anything instead of always wanting the latest and greatest, and subsequently wanting to mod the latest and greatest.

ive felt that way at times as well. i think thats something that gets lost around here is that we make up a very small minority of people who buy these phones. look at it from htcs point of view, we can either put research money into bumping up the fps cap on the evo or we can put that money into releasing a phone in 6 months that destroys the evo. whaich do u think they will choose? im not saying its right or wrong and i would love for them to do it but when the overwhelming majority of folks wouldnt even notice a difference i can see how it wouldnt be of the highest priority.

**gator352** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDSL

So instead of making a switch so the other 99% of users who DON'T use the HDMI port they just decided to be lazy and cap it at 30fps!

Got to love HTC!!!

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...he-htc-evo-4g/

Man, just about every comment I've seen of yours is negative about HTC in general and/or the EVO. If HTC and/or the EVO bother you this much, there are other phones out there that would be glad to be in your hands having you whisper it sweet nothings into it's microphone.

To answer your statement, most of us don't care it's capped at 30fps because most of us...well...at least I, don't play games on my phones that require that much horsepower. It would be nice if it hit 60fps for bragging rights and I'm glad they fessed up, but it's not a deal breaker for me and I'm not going to lose sleep over this.

MrDSL · #7 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 03:58 PM

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Man, just about every comment I've seen of yours is negative about HTC in general and/or the EVO. If HTC and/or the EVO bother you this much, there are other phones out there that would be glad to be in your hands having you whisper it sweet nothings into it's microphone.

To answer your statement, most of us don't care it's capped at 30fps because most of us...well...at least I, don't play games on my phones that require that much horsepower. It would be nice if it hit 60fps for bragging rights and I'm glad they fessed up, but it's not a deal breaker for me and I'm not going to lose sleep over this.

I'm sorry that me calling HTC out on some there problems with their phones bothers you. If the 30fps doesn't bother you then why bother to reply?

Do some research there is MORE then just games with the 30fps cap.

rolgnav · #8 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 04:07 PM

People pretend not to care, but once we find a way to change the cap, they'll be the first in line to want it. I seriously don't notice the 30fps too much, but what I do notice and care about is if I buy something because it's the best, I expect it to be the best. Right now, the EVO's performance is laughed at by older android models. Seriously, if you got an EVO just because you needed a phone, then great for you. Some of us bought it to be the best phone at the time. The EVO has all the hardware to be the best, but just bad/lazy implementation of firmware. HTC is great at pumping out specs, but they are known to take shortcuts. It's a love/hate relationship, going back to the 8525 days.

**gator352** · #9 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDSL

I'm sorry that me calling HTC out on some there problems with their phones bothers you. If the 30fps doesn't bother you then why bother to reply?

Do some research there is MORE then just games with the 30fps cap.

It doesn't bother me....it seems it bothers you to the point that this phone isn't for you. Why reply? Because you remind me of someone who is never happy. Bitching about things isn't very productive now is it? Kinda like a disgruntled postal worker.

HAHA, I've done research and I am by far not illiterate when it comes to anything tech. Now, this 30fps cap isn't effective much at all. Games. That's about it. Your input lag you keep talking about is present in all phones. Hell, even my super duper custom home built bad ass stutters at times when accessing the HDD. This input lag, which I get every now and then only on first use of that particular app, has everything to do with how the evo accesses it's ROM to display the content. Nothing to do with frame rate. Most Movies, videos, etc. are all capped below 30 fps, especially HD content, so again, FPS isn't an issue.

Think of it this way, your EVO works the same way a PC does for the most part. SO when you access a file on your PC and it...lags...before it's opened, that's all on the HDD. Can't blame the vid card.

**gator352** · #10 (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rolgnav

People pretend not to care, but once we find a way to change the cap, they'll be the first in line to want it. I seriously don't notice the 30fps too much, but what I do notice and care about is if I buy something because it's the best, I expect it to be the best. Right now, the EVO's performance is laughed at by older android models. Seriously, if you got an EVO just because you needed a phone, then great for you. Some of us bought it to be the best phone at the time. The EVO has all the hardware to be the best, but just bad/lazy implementation of firmware. HTC is great at pumping out specs, but they are known to take shortcuts. It's a love/hate relationship, going back to the 8525 days.

I agree that there should be no cap. If They tout it's the best, then it should be unhindered and be the best. BUT, at the same token, I don't see/notice it and it's not effecting me so it's not a problem. I bought it to be the best phone for me and do what I need it to do, and it does it well. I agree that HTC has poor implementation of firmware and sometime, it will bite them in the ass. And yeah, I'll be first in line to get the fix (if it ever happenes) because it's free and I don't have to feed it. I've said my peace and I'm done.