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Old 06-22-2010, 12:28 AM
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

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yeah thats what I did but just to let you know that you did not mention that in your video, but its not thats big of a deal if you flash with the ROM manager that way you don't go back to the recovery loader, Imight be wrong but I was just checking
Even if you dont rename it and DO go into hboot/bootloader/recovery loader and the file gets read we have a failsafe since it asks us if we want to continue the update. Just hit No if you have accidentally left the file on your card without renaming it.
I know since I did it.
I knew better but when I saw the zip being read I freaked.
Of course I just hit No to the 'continue update' question once it got there.
No harm, no foul.
Ultimately you're right, best to rename it or move it into a folder to prevent heart attacks.
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

cant you just load the stock rom instead of doing a nada back up?
the nada backup is to only to keep from having to re-root right ??
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:35 AM
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

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cant you just load the stock rom instead of doing a nada back up?
the nada backup is to only to keep from having to re-root right ??
The Nand backup is a COPY of whatever ROM you run it on, settings and all.
So once you finish the process all you do is restore it and you're back to where you left off without having to set up the ROM from fresh flash.

You COULD reflash a ROM but that'd be a pita imo. Nand backup/restore is the way to go.

If you are using Stock ROM, make sure you are using the rooted Stock ROM. Dont root and stay on the original ROM, very good chance of headaches.
If you are on non-rooted stock, I'd flash rooted stock, set THAT up, THEN run the Nand backup.
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:40 AM
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

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The Nand backup is a COPY of whatever ROM you run it on, settings and all.
So once you finish the process all you do is restore it and you're back to where you left off without having to set up the ROM from fresh flash.

You COULD reflash a ROM but that'd be a pita imo. Nand backup/restore is the way to go.

If you are using Stock ROM, make sure you are using the rooted Stock ROM. Dont root and stay on the original ROM, very good chance of headaches.
If you are on non-rooted stock, I'd flash rooted stock, set THAT up, THEN run the Nand backup.
Hmm so if there is a stock rooted rom to get rooted why are people doing it the hard way with cmd codes?

and who makes a good rooted stock? and after rooted stock is used you can nada backup and load hacked rom?
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:51 AM
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

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Hmm so if there is a stock rooted rom to get rooted why are people doing it the hard way with cmd codes?

and who makes a good rooted stock? and after rooted stock is used you can nada backup and load hacked rom?
You misunderstood me. The rooted Stock ROM is to use AFTER you obtain root. It does NOT give you root just simply by flashing it.

When you obtain root you want to run ROMs-Stock or Custom that were written to utilize root access. Everything just flows better that way.

Yes if you load the rooted Stock you can still back that up and flash yer brains out trying all the different custom ROMs that are cropping up almost daily at this point.

CHOICE IS GOOD

Grab the rooted stock ROM here:
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This is the rooted Stock with the OTA already applied
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

ok i get ya thanks.. im going to use OMJ
i just wanted to know how important the nada backup was
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

im stuck at "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image"

it gives me an error saying "cat: can't open '/sdcard/flash_image'": no such file or directory

i have downloaded the flash_image.zip and extracted it to my sd card twice so i KNOW its there. i have done toast root and currently running Bugless 0.3 with latest ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.

i have tried connecting as USB and HTC Sync and made sure SD card was mounted so what am i missing? i feel so dumb =(
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Re: EVO Full Root|Recovery|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing for n00b's Instructions & Vid

Sorry for the noob questions but before I flash I was wondering about a couple of things
1. What are the differences between the recovery modes (Ive seen Amon RA, clockwork mod)- are some built to be used on the phone by itself vs hooking it up to a pc and using adb?
2. When you flash a recovery mode I assume you are replacing the built in recovery mode (which is limited in functionality?) with the modded one?
3. What is the Dalvic cache? Is it important to clear this?
4. If things go wrong or you need to return your phone to sprint can you just hook your phone up to your computer and run the stock rom installer
5. Finally rom manager looks like it can do alot from within android itself- I assuming in order to use it you have to nand unlocked?
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im stuck at "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image"

it gives me an error saying "cat: can't open '/sdcard/flash_image'": no such file or directory

i have downloaded the flash_image.zip and extracted it to my sd card twice so i KNOW its there. i have done toast root and currently running Bugless 0.3 with latest ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.

i have tried connecting as USB and HTC Sync and made sure SD card was mounted so what am i missing? i feel so dumb =(
Make sure the flash_image file is on your card, not the zipped folder.
EDIT:ALSO make sure the file is named correctly.Make sure your typing the adb commands EXACTLY as outlined, don't copy/paste, sometimes you pick up an errant letter or symbol. Adb codes need to be entered one at a time.
Make sure USB debugging is enabled. Menu,settings,applications,development.
Watch the video, it helps. A lot.

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Sorry for the noob questions but before I flash I was wondering about a couple of things
1. What are the differences between the recovery modes (Ive seen Amon RA, clockwork mod)- are some built to be used on the phone by itself vs hooking it up to a pc and using adb?
2. When you flash a recovery mode I assume you are replacing the built in recovery mode (which is limited in functionality?) with the modded one?
3. What is the Dalvic cache? Is it important to clear this?
4. If things go wrong or you need to return your phone to sprint can you just hook your phone up to your computer and run the stock rom installer
5. Finally rom manager looks like it can do alot from within android itself- I assuming in order to use it you have to nand unlocked?
thanks in advance
1. Amon ra recovery is the recovery used in the full root process. Once completed we can boot into that recovery without a PC. Clockwork is similar but has slightly different functionality.
2. Yes
3. Best I can describe is its an area of data storage, exactly what, not positive. Yes, clear it.
EDIT: AS PER CYANOGEN :
"When Android starts up, the DalvikVM looks thru all of your applications (.apk files) and frameworks, and builds a tree of dependencies. It uses this dependency tree to optimize the bytecode for every application and stores it in the Dalvik cache. The applications are then run using the optimized bytecode. This is why when you install a new ROM, sometimes it takes a very long time to boot for the first time. Any time an application (or framework library) changes, it's reoptimized and the cache is updated."
4. Yes, there is a unroot, return to stock thread, look for my Sig its linked there.
5. No, ROM Manager can be used without full root.

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im stuck at "cat /sdcard/flash_image > /data/flash_image"

it gives me an error saying "cat: can't open '/sdcard/flash_image'": no such file or directory

i have downloaded the flash_image.zip and extracted it to my sd card twice so i KNOW its there. i have done toast root and currently running Bugless 0.3 with latest ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager.

i have tried connecting as USB and HTC Sync and made sure SD card was mounted so what am i missing? i feel so dumb =(
maybe look here at the 2nd error
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