Capacitive Touch Buttons/Hardware Buttons! Let Your Voices Be Heard!

[mixxy]

Any one notice that the WHOLE damn hardware button panel is capacitive touch. I always though it had more than one button, but the idea is that its capacitive touch and that it only works based on the vicinity of where u click/push the hardware panel.

I was walking to the library today, with gloves on, and noticed that whenever i pushed the call button, nothing came up. Took my gloves off, and it worked fine. This is the deal with ALL the buttons.

Kind of disappointing since now i can use the device's hardware buttons with gloves on, and the screen is not accurate enough to work with my fat gloves.

What are your thoughts? Did you know about this? Does this make the device a little less appealing to you AT ALL, now that you know about it? LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD!

I mean i knew it had capacitive touch to develop multitouch interface, but this gives the device a similar handicap like the iphone.

[subhumanderelict]

Yeah, there was a thread about this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42578

[mixxy]

i know about the whole lock program at xda and the discovery of capacitive touch, but i thought it was a combination of capacitive touch AND actual hardware that was under that panel (some type of button)

[subhumanderelict]

I believe there are physical hardware buttons beneath the capacitive layer, but not all of them require a capacitive event to activate. The four main keys (Home, Back, Hang up and Answer) as well as the left/right buttons require direct contact with your finger (or whatever part of your body you use to push the button) but the up/down do not. At least, this is the case on the Touch Pro.

[fr4nk1yn]

Not sure what makes what work but mine has the habit of "losing alignment".
Sometimes my home click drifts up to the edge of the screen and a reboot gets it back in place.
Not sure what that means either.

[mixxy]

Originally Posted by subhumanderelict

I believe there are physical hardware buttons beneath the capacitive layer, but not all of them require a capacitive event to activate. The four main keys (Home, Back, Hang up and Answer) as well as the left/right buttons require direct contact with your finger (or whatever part of your body you use to push the button) but the up/down do not. At least, this is the case on the Touch Pro.

not so sure of this. because if there were hardware buttons underneath, then something would happen when i pressed the buttons. I tried home, call, back and end with my gloves on, NONE work.

[meatgel]

[quote=subhumanderelict;585509](or whatever part of your body you use to push the button)[quote]

What are you using to push the button? eeeewwwwwwwwwww ....

[slmclarengt]

Mixxy, boy do I know how you feel...

I generally do not like walking around in our -7F degree weather without big gloves so this affected me as well yesterday (as I was waiting outside). But I was able to get it to work after pressing it many times; perhaps it registered a capacitive touch after that but that wouldn't make sense with how Capacitive touch works. There are physical buttons underneath but perhaps they FIRST rely on Capacitive touch to make sure a person is trying to push the button and not accidental in pocket or otherwise.

Maybe that is WHY it worked after a couple tries, because I was so persistent?

Slmclarengt

[mixxy]

Originally Posted by slmclarengt

Mixxy, boy do I know how you feel...

I generally do not like walking around in our -7F degree weather without big gloves so this affected me as well yesterday (as I was waiting outside). But I was able to get it to work after pressing it many times; perhaps it registered a capacitive touch after that but that wouldn't make sense with how Capacitive touch works. There are physical buttons underneath but perhaps they FIRST rely on Capacitive touch to make sure a person is trying to push the button and not accidental in pocket or otherwise.

Maybe that is WHY it worked after a couple tries, because I was so persistent?

Slmclarengt

noticed that too, but i think it has to do more with your fingers letting out SOME type of charge which builds over time, because after you click a few times and then the 8th or 9th time that it actually works, it wont work AFTER that ONE succesful entry.

Not sure what this is about, but maybe, since its based on sensitivity, there could be an app developed to control the amount of electrivity the conductor plate senses. I highly doubt that theres more than one hardware button underneat, that would prove to be of extra cost to htc. Rather they would utilize capacitive touch, and have it recognize which part of the panel is being touch, in sequence activating ONE button which is pushed, in accordance with the specific coordinates of the touch on the panel

[InvincibleLiving]

yeah i just consider it a minor annoyance... but i'd never handle my phone with gloves on... that's just a drop waitning to happen lol