Apache PPC-6800/XV-6800???

[aughsum]

Sogarth-

okay.. the flaming ended up missing the point of my post.

why am i not using the 4-5 year old technology? because it didnt have a phone built into it.. in teh time period im referring to i had a phone and a pda and i did not like carring them both around. the sd-gps. however, was nice.

the thing about how gsm and cdma phones cant be compared.. ya they can. theyre phones. all im saying is why do gsm phones have to manufactured so much better than cdma?

1,000$+? who cares. Id rather pay 1600$ for an amazing phone than pay 600 for a phone that barely compares to it at all. thats just a personal thing though.. would rather have d&g sunglasses than dollar store sunglasses, would rather have a bmw than a civic.

all i said in my post, was that if phone manufacturers are going to release "new" devices, that we are all going to buy to stay ahead of the curve, they need to be at least somewhat new. negating the fact that our curve is lightyears behind the curve in other countries, for whatever reason. isnt america the most powerful country in the world? why do our phones suck the most? (well besides... iraq.. and the like)

[Big D5]

Originally Posted by aughsum

Sogarth-

okay.. the flaming ended up missing the point of my post.

why am i not using the 4-5 year old technology? because it didnt have a phone built into it.. in teh time period im referring to i had a phone and a pda and i did not like carring them both around. the sd-gps. however, was nice.

the thing about how gsm and cdma phones cant be compared.. ya they can. theyre phones. all im saying is why do gsm phones have to manufactured so much better than cdma?

1,000$+? who cares. Id rather pay 1600$ for an amazing phone than pay 600 for a phone that barely compares to it at all. thats just a personal thing though.. would rather have d&g sunglasses than dollar store sunglasses, would rather have a bmw than a civic.

all i said in my post, was that if phone manufacturers are going to release "new" devices, that we are all going to buy to stay ahead of the curve, they need to be at least somewhat new. negating the fact that our curve is lightyears behind the curve in other countries, for whatever reason. isnt america the most powerful country in the world? why do our phones suck the most? (well besides... iraq.. and the like)

I agree with every word it just makes me sad that these phones will never be available to the better faster CDMA network. I would love to have about 15 or 20 different GSM phones just not an option for a old Sprint dog like me. No flaming intended here just mad and sad that the good stuff is always available to someone else

[Sogarth]

Originally Posted by aughsum

okay.. the flaming ended up missing the point of my post.

I'm not flaming. I'm just stating that you're missing the realities of the situation, summed up here:

Originally Posted by aughsum

1,000$+? who cares. Id rather pay 1600$ for an amazing phone than pay 600 for a phone that barely compares to it at all.

Because, well, most of the population out there doesn't agree with you. If they did, you'd sure see a lot more of those phones out there. But the number of phones that expensive is few and far between. Before the i-mate Ultimate line comes out, I can only name... 2 that have come out in the past several years that seem to have the feature set you're demanding. One of them didn't sell that well. The other one just came out.

Originally Posted by aughsum

all i said in my post, was that if phone manufacturers are going to release "new" devices, that we are all going to buy to stay ahead of the curve, they need to be at least somewhat new. negating the fact that our curve is lightyears behind the curve in other countries, for whatever reason. isnt america the most powerful country in the world? why do our phones suck the most? (well besides... iraq.. and the like)

You did realize that for what little it's worth, the United States isn't behind other countries in terms of phones any longer? At least not for Windows Mobile phones? They were a few years ago, but that's not really true any longer. Unless you're talking about the phones in Asia which can watch TV and such (if you're into that kind of thing). For that matter, there are now Windows Mobile phones that come out in the United States first, that the rest of the world has to wait for (case in point: the Samsung SGH-i607).

i-mate's going out on a limb releasing their Ultimate line of phones, betting that there are people (like you) who are willing to spend a significant chunk of change on a phone, even though the market so far hasn't really affirmed that belief. For their sake, I hope they're right. The last time a company came out with a phone that had noticeably better features than anything else out there... a few people bought it, but not that many. Take a look at the HTC Universal, if you want to see what history's had to say so far.

[aughsum]

the universal and the x7500, which im also interested in, are both gsm though, right?

ultimately i just want a phone like in tomorrow never dies.. the hp jordania.. 4 inch widescreen.. maybe able to remotely operate my car.. i dont know, but that form factor is what im looking for. very very very small laptop phone. are there any superphones like the x7500 or the 7150 that can be unlocked and used on sprints network? or is everything overseas gsm

really i want external vga output and gps. thats all im asking for, the 6700 does everything else for me. im looking forward to fuel cell batteries.. but battery life on my 6700 is fine because of the mini usb charging port and the ease of being able to find someone with a simular charger in a pinch. the screen could be larger.. i dont even have a need for wm6, as wm5 does everything i need it to. the ram sucks but i deal with it. i only want gps, and vga output. and no i dont want to buy a bt gps receiver, espically when the phone may or may not have the hardware in it, sprint just felt the need to cripple it.

[sledgie]

imate did indeed release cdma phones, they were the first to release the 6600 variant "pda 2k evdo", so the statement that imate releases only gsm is incorrect. however, since sprint in the us won't activate any phone unless the esn is alread in the system, and verizon having the same policy (in the past), its hard to have a good market in the US for it. just thought I'd correct that statement

[luv2chill]

sledgie - the pda 2k evdo was an HTC phone that imate rebranded (back when that was all imate did). They have since severed ties with HTC and design and market their own phones (so far none of which have been CDMA).

[sledgie]

I know that, I was just stating in the past they have done cdma, whether rebranded or not

[PocketPcUser]

Windows Mobile Devices Update
Turns out that as we expected but not as soon as we expected, HTC is releasing the updates to WM6. I guess it is just in time for Advantage to get out and about and get this upgrade.
Be warned we still don't know if and when the details will be released on which devices will get it. Newer devices look hopeful. On the negative side, older newer devices are not too promising.
Check it out Here

Then again.. even the devices coming out (XV/PPC/6800) are just as unpromising... See this

I thought the processor was getting a boost. The RAM was lowered in the prototype; cross your fingers for that to change back to at least the 96MB that was mentioned a while ago. So far nothing has changed since this was seen in last years release details. So I guess we will have to accept that the only changes to the model were a forseeable update some time after its release to enable the Verizon Rev. A high speed data service.
Also some minor memory upgrades. Although they seemed to change the processor brand to another 400mhz variant.
Of course this is only a test model but I'm starting to loose my patience and my confidence in this device.
I wanted this to be Mini-SD or even better SD memory card enabled. Not that Micro crap!. And 96MB what about 128 like in other high end devices. Anyone else with me on this?
Andrew,

[Raging Idiot]

Perhaps they are releasing the 6800 like this because they have plans on an early release of something else (6900) soon afterward.

I need to read more about the new technologies coming out in regards to increasing EVDO bandwidth. I wonder if we will be able to take advantage of this with our 6700's without changing anything, or if a swap of radio files might make it possible.

[PocketPcUser]

Originally Posted by Raging Idiot

Perhaps they are releasing the 6800 like this because they have plans on an early release of something else (6900) soon afterward.

I need to read more about the new technologies coming out in regards to increasing EVDO bandwidth. I wonder if we will be able to take advantage of this with our 6700's without changing anything, or if a swap of radio files might make it possible.

It seems possible. Maybe they wanted to test the waters before they release this other one that they are working on. I wish they would go back to the SD that was on the 6600. I didn't own that device but I would rather Mini-SD to Micro. Then again, while they are at it, changing it and all, why not stick a SD drive in there.

But, out of the box, the 6800 won't even support this new technology, at least according to what I have read. So either it won't be ready in time, or they want to sell the devices with that feature to come soon. It is a matter of just enabling the built-in feature, so I would imagine that we can't take advantage of this new speed. I would think that maybe, just maybe it may in fact bump up our speed/performance on the networks a bit. But, I may just be dreaming.

Only time will tell, but I think I am gonna wait til the next device comes out. There is not any reason that I can see yet to upgrade.

Do you have problems with the Mini-SD on your device?
Andrew,