Why does everyone hate the iphone?

[CyberMonkey]

Originally Posted by Dr.8820

isn't that the theme though? i loved my treo 700wx until the touch came out, then i loved it til the pro came out, then i loved it til the pro2 came then i...you get the message!

Exactly my point this whole time. No matter the phone, there will always be something you wish it to do.

[Dr.8820]

Originally Posted by CyberMonkey

Exactly my point this whole time. No matter the phone, there will always be something you wish it to do.

i agree 100%. but i've decided to like my phone, no matter what's out there. i got flamed for not wanting to pay for the tp2, when most of these geekers were hyping it. now, i have a tp2, and the same folks are talking about leaving sprint to chase the nexus. the only ones getting anything are the phone manufactures and cell companies. when will we learn...!

[mlin]

Originally Posted by newone757

so what both void your warranty if you dont return to stock before turning in and both make the experience that much better. they may not be equal but pretty much everyone saying iphone doesn't have basic functionality are running custom roms and in my eyes if you're willing to flash you're willing to jailbreak. so i dont get what all the complaining is for.

and i could really care less if apple or MS approve of what we are doing, its not like either offers any support and sadly apple keeps its OS more up to date than MS so whats the advantage there again??


and proswitcher is much better than mulitiflow, you should really give it a try, ive been watching live NBA games and been able to exit out , post on facebook status about the game and return right back to the stream with no issues. (on ipod)

The iPhone IS missing basic functionality that takes jailbreaking to add it to the device, bottom line, and it isn't comparable to unlocking. What you care or don't care about regarding MS and Apple approving your actions is irrelevant, the point is what jailbreaking does for the device, you have to free the phone from the constraints of Apple in order to utilize certain programs and features.

Microsoft has obviously been slow with updating the OS, and overall, the WM 6.X series is quite dated, (though still offers the greatest versatility). It's easy for Apple and Palm to release updates regularly and get them pushed to customer's devices quickly as they are proprietary companies. When MS releases updates, much like Android, it takes a while for the manufacturer and carrier to push those updates to the device. Sprint's Android phones are still on 1.5.

I agree, proswitcher does run more smoothly than multiflow, but they both run at the forefront of Backgrounder, the heart of the issue.

None of these devices or OSes is perfect, and regardless of what features they do have, we will always want more.

[newone757]

I was just stating that I dont care how a device comes stock because thats not how i run it.
I understand for the sake of the general public usage it is definitely a concern of capabilities out of the box. But this site doesnt really fall into that category

all i care about are its capabilities in the end. i dont have ANY devices i run stock(even my old ipod video was hacked,psp is def hacked, my wm phones are flashed, my webOS device will be patched, my wifes g1 is rooted and flashed, my ipod touch is jailbroken, even my router is flashed, etc). I just find it funny that people on a site centered around hacking can try to compare the stock capabilities of a device even when they know a few mouseclicks can give it endless potential. Jailbreaking is as simple as installing a cab through activesync

but I see you are knowledgeable on all this and its a relief to see someone else on these boards who doesnt speak with ignorance about other devices just because they dont own them




OFF TOPIC i really wish we had a Maemo phone readily available here in the states, it really piques my intrest and is the only mobile OS i havent tried yet

[Mr.KLeen]

Originally Posted by newone757

I was just stating that I dont care how a device comes stock because thats not how i run it.
I understand for the sake of the general public usage it is definitely a concern of capabilities out of the box. But this site doesnt really fall into that category

all i care about are its capabilities in the end. i dont have ANY devices i run stock(even my old ipod video was hacked,psp is def hacked, my wm phones are flashed, my webOS device will be patched, my wifes g1 is rooted and flashed, my ipod touch is jailbroken, even my router is flashed, etc). I just find it funny that people on a site centered around hacking can try to compare the stock capabilities of a device even when they know a few mouseclicks can give it endless potential. Jailbreaking is as simple as installing a cab through activesync

but I see you are knowledgeable on all this and its a relief to see someone else on these boards who doesnt speak with ignorance about other devices just because they dont own them




OFF TOPIC i really wish we had a Maemo phone readily available here in the states, it really piques my intrest and is the only mobile OS i havent tried yet

i agree man. i have no problem with iphone. i have the touch and use it alot for music movies and games

[knewBee4lyfe]

Originally Posted by CyberMonkey

Well most of what you posted I agree with you. But there are ways to make an iPhone be able to sync with multiple iTunes libraries...need to jailbreak it, but any phones needs to be hacked/modded/reflashed to make it truly customized and perfect for an individual.

ok... cyber monkey... i like your style. you are correct in all points. especially the point about iphone making everyone step up thier game. especially rim... w/ the storm and storm 2.

so... thanks.

the only issue i have which is the big deal breaker in all you said is that... apple wants to make sure that you don't jail break your phone. by doing bimonthly updates, and stuff like that. yea... there are ways around it... but in the end... its so much more of a hassle. i mean... when we flash winmo roms... its not like all of a sudden we can't plug in the phone to our computers. or fully utilize the syncing of itunes to it. AAAND as I said before. in the case that you have an ipod, or an ipt. then what?

oh... but i do like your unbiased oppinion. again... its nothing against the iphone... its apple all together.

ps... remember when jailbreak first came out, and apple made the itunes brick the phone if you sync'd?? yea...

[knewBee4lyfe]

Originally Posted by drift365

No you wouldnt carry a desktop around. Thats what LAPTOPS are for.


Why are you sending it back? I have done all kinds of crap to this phone including dropping it onto pavement screen first from the front seat of a truck, and it still hasnt broken. When you send out any other phone for repair you dont have a phone for 2 weeks either. No difference

1. like i said... most people have both... and thier music library is ussually in a desktop or atleast a removable hard drive. and 2... your reply was why I added the "business use only laptops". would you carry around 2 laptops? one for business and one for personal use? might as well just carry the desktop... lol. oh and what i stated with my phone... it was all through the phone.. not utilizing the laptop... i mean even if you did decide to carry around 2 laptops... would you carry around 2 laptops for a 3 day trip juuuust incase you needed to hard reset your phone? given... its rarer to have to or want to hard reset an iphone due to its great stability... (which is one of the beauty's of it)

and for the second comment... like i said before... i used to work for ATT customer service. and believe me... for every 5 people w/ perfect phones. (same goes for winmo) there is 1 person w/ the crappiest luck w/ them.

I once talked to an apple fanboy who returned his phone 9 times... and was so upset that apple GAVE HIM a bt headset... which just pissed him off more bc it only had a charge time of 2-3 hrs. lol. and thats just one dude.

even us at ATT cust service had to wait on hold for sometimes 40 mins, bc we weren't allowed to cold transfer to iphone/apple tech support. and we were not allowed to be trained in iphone troubleshooting bc apple was adamant in troubleshooting their product themselves. (just goes to show... you are one of the REALLY lucky ones who somehow got the incredible hulk iphone..)

#2... there was this guy... (retarded) who was walking out of the mall w/ 2 new ip3g one for him and one for his wife... and i guess he was holding both of them in his hands in awe of the new phones. and some guy walks right up to him... ganks both phones and runs away... leaving them w/ nothing but a 250 cxlation fee so they can buy a new phone. bc they can't insure it, plus they had a $300 charge for the iphone itself bc they cxl'd w/in 30 days of a new contract w/o returning the phone. and the phones non-contract price was 600 at the time. lol sukkas!

i tried to help the poor bastard... but even the call center director said no. bc it was strict att/apple agreement that this was to be done.

[knewBee4lyfe]

Originally Posted by CyberMonkey

Ah, but I have/had an iPhone. It is deffinately not the end all be all for cell phones. There are some very nice things about it, yet at the same time there are some major cons to it also. Just like any other phones, including WinMo phones.
I currently have the HTC Pure, and I am loving. It's one of the best phones I have had, but there are somethings I wish were different about it.

and thats when flashing comes into play!

[knewBee4lyfe]

sorry for the multipost guys... but... last one..

i gotta say, i wouldn't mind having a touch. its an iphone w/o the phone feature. and att data...

i had my psp hacked
laptop
NDS
car
even my moms car has a few tweeks.

im just a geek like that. and if and when i get an ipod touch... im sure the first thing im going to do to it is jailbreak it.

btw... the maemo... isn't that the sony phone thats more of a messaging phone? if it is... i saw it at fry's a few years back. if it isn't... can you post a link to it. I doubt phonearena.com will have up on their pages. if so... then i haven't looked. lol.

in the end... I'd like to say that it took over 10 years for ms to make a tolerable winmo system. im sure if we give apple half the time. they will address most of the issues we complain about at this moment. i mean... it only took them 3 years to add mms and video capability. how long did it take ms? w/ phones older than the 6700? in closing... be good to your phone... and everyone elses... bc beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder...

lol

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by knewBee4lyfe

he's not talking about the library loading... he's talking about updating... #2... it doesn't have to be stolen... but say u ripped music from a cd you had before... or someone had a playlist that saaay... you had before. or you liked... or... you wanted to borrow to listen to and if you liked it you would buy some of the songs on there... what happens when u attach you ipod/touch/phone to the computer? first thing it says is it is needs to delete everything in your phone cuz you can only be allowed to connect to 1 computer at a time.

and he's talking about updates... updates updates... from 1.010.101. blah blah blah. 4... to all but .5... and next week its .6... if its not itunes then its the player.

listen... there's this assumption that apples/mac's are not virus safe. the reason that rarely any virii are messing w/ apples... is plain and simply... it wasn't written for that type of machine. microsoft windows, are the most popular OS running on 95% of all computers world wide. (assumption on percentage) so why would you build a worm/trojan/spyware that only affects less than 1% of the systems? that's my opinion. correct me if im wrong.

like i said... not really flaming on iphone... just apple all together... and their misconception of better than thou attitude.

btw... itunes isn't the only place you can buy music and videos... so it doesn't matter if your swat, popo... deydey or jenny from the block... usage of itunes is not necessary. try zune...

thanks I was about to respond but you're correct. I rip my own CDsand there are so many other places besides Itunes you can legally get music I won't even go into it, excpet to say that it doesn't all come in crappy 128 kbps. I actually use an ipod (that small tiny like the size of quarter) a friend gave me, but sync all my music with mediamonkey, I also sync my phone with mediamonkey. I just hate apple software its so cumbersome.