Why does everyone hate the iphone?

[rawdog805]

Originally Posted by saibot

Do you need iTunes to put music on an iphone? If so my phone still wins as my choice for a music player.

LOL.. No you dont need Itunes to put music on the iphone.. I too cant stand Itunes, so I dont use with my iphone to put music on.. there are several alternatives for this..

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by blue4shizzle

where did i say the iphone was better?

every one of your rants is on how the iphone is better and the only reason you have to be stuck with the worthless winmo is because of your SERO plan.

You're just not willing to accept that some people prefer winmo and that your assertion that the ipod is better, or that the iphone is more productive in any way or that it is better to own or better in any way is all opinion, it's simply your opinion, and that's fine you're entitled to it.

No one was comparing stock to stock, I would MUCH rather have a pimped out tweaked and modded winmo over a jailbroken iphone any day, because even jailbroken it doesn't do enough that the winmo phone can.

Out of the box I would rather have 6.5 over the iphone, because you don't need to flash a new rom to tweak some settings and add some different UIs, oh yeah, and I can set a freaking mp3 as a ringtone, what a concept!

AND I can play videos, WOW, I don't need an entirely new phone (3Gs) to do that, that was their selling point on the phone. its just a 3G that can play videos and has a slightly faster processor, wow that's totally worth hundreds of dollars.

Some people just don't buy the hype and don't think it's that great, and after you go thru the thirty thousand fart apps you get tired of it not being able to do certain things. Like play flash?

[skuddy]

reply to your topic.

I don't hate the iPhone. I used a 2g iPhone, and a 3g iPhone. Never made it to the 3gs. I had an ATT Tilt before I got my 2g iPhone, and subsequently returned the 2g iPhone because I liked my Tilt better. I was working for a company that had me traveling everywhere in the US. I mean everywhere literally. I used Excel Mobile on a daily basis. I got the iPhone and ended up having to boot my PC every time I needed to find my next location.

There we're 3 reasons I went with the iPhone 3g. Maps, I personally think the iPhone google maps app that comes natively on the phone is amazing; Porn, there is no phone that is easier to get porn on then the iPhone; and because I thought I was cool because I had an iPhone.

You see that last reason? That is why a lot of people hate the iPhone. A lot of people are blindly Apple fans, and just buy the iPhone because they have to fit in to that cookie cutter mold Apple hands out with its products. The main problem is people don't know how to find a phone that fits their needs. Most people wont ever use half of the shit on an iPhone. They especially wouldn't use half the features on a Windows Phone. But the most accurate answer to your question is this; most people don't hate the iPhone, they hate all of the pretentious douche bags that go out of their way to tell everyone they have an iPhone. The same douche bags that go out of their way to show you the newest most useless app they could find. All while throwing hundreds of dollars a month at the app store. And much like the user, the iPhone sits there and says "oh yes, I'm trying to be something I'm not. I'm a feature phone, but people mistake me for a smart phone; they even mistake me for a PocketPC. That means I'm better than you because im over hyped and loved for all the wrong reasons, but i don't care, I'm just a big attention ***** anyway." That's why people hate the iPhone.

I use an HTC Touch Pro 2 now. I love the device, I think it suits me better than an iPhone ever could. And its not smug about its existence.

[blue4shizzle]

Originally Posted by orangekid

every one of your rants is on how the iphone is better and the only reason you have to be stuck with the worthless winmo is because of your SERO plan.

You're just not willing to accept that some people prefer winmo and that your assertion that the ipod is better, or that the iphone is more productive in any way or that it is better to own or better in any way is all opinion, it's simply your opinion, and that's fine you're entitled to it.

No one was comparing stock to stock, I would MUCH rather have a pimped out tweaked and modded winmo over a jailbroken iphone any day, because even jailbroken it doesn't do enough that the winmo phone can.

Out of the box I would rather have 6.5 over the iphone, because you don't need to flash a new rom to tweak some settings and add some different UIs, oh yeah, and I can set a freaking mp3 as a ringtone, what a concept!

AND I can play videos, WOW, I don't need an entirely new phone (3Gs) to do that, that was their selling point on the phone. its just a 3G that can play videos and has a slightly faster processor, wow that's totally worth hundreds of dollars.

Some people just don't buy the hype and don't think it's that great, and after you go thru the thirty thousand fart apps you get tired of it not being able to do certain things. Like play flash?

you do realize just about all of your points are either wrong or pointless? you CAN set mp3s as a ringtone on an iphone.. the 3G CAN play videos, then you refer to the apps as if they arent useful. what happened to everyone has a preference? what happened to the concept that there is something out there that can please everyone, you know thousands of choices to choose from. i mean honestly, why would you even point out the fact that there is an upgraded model of an iphone when the touch pro 2 has the exact same processor and ram as the touch pro, but a bigger screen and a better keyboard. you kinda sound like a hypocrite. i consider myself a pretty heavy data user, im constantly on the web. how often do we really come across a situation when you would need to use flash? honestly? plus im sure anyone HERE that does own an iphone would tell you that browsing on the iphone an bein directed to a different screen to watch a video doesnt take away from the experience at all.. if anything i got aggrivated trying to position the screen the way i wanted to with skyfire, not an issue on my iphone. but you mention flash like its a key point that kills the browser or something. some people dont even know what flash is, and what is the REAL benefit from having flash besides being able to view the video on the browser the way it would appear on your desktop? not really anything honestly, or at least not enough to shoot down safari. yeah its personal preference, but weigh out the pro's and con's fully. oh, fyi its not a sero plan, i used to work for sprint, it is an employee plan. you know orangekid, i think you have a comprehension problem, because i made it CLEAR that i understand people have their preferences and prefer things over apple. my point has never been that the iphone was better, ive been pointing out that there is no reason to hate the iphone when in a lot of cases it has things that we as windows users wish we could have, and microsoft could learn a lot from em. everything you said seriously has a flaw in it somehow, either on your perception on what i meant.. or what actually is the case with the iphone. the 3GS has a lot of major upgrades.. and considering how its only 199, you know.. the price that the 3G was last year?? (did you forget they dropped the price 100 dollars?) i dont understand your point at all? because the the mogul was 300 bucks for eons. to be honest, based off of what you've been saying in your responses.. i would have to just call you a hater man lol, because only a hater would say such things which doesnt really matter to begin with, but use it as the basis of their point, and then come off as a hypocrite at the same time in a way or two. i accept that you prolly wont ever like the iphone (its your prerogative), but i can let you know that you bring up a fairly weak argument when you try to justify your case on why its so "inferior". especially when it outsells the crap out of winmobile (isnt that ironic).

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by blue4shizzle

you do realize just about all of your points are either wrong or pointless? you CAN set mp3s as a ringtone on an iphone.. the 3G CAN play videos, then you refer to the apps as if they arent useful. what happened to everyone has a preference? what happened to the concept that there is something out there that can please everyone, you know thousands of choices to choose from. i mean honestly, why would you even point out the fact that there is an upgraded model of an iphone when the touch pro 2 has the exact same processor and ram as the touch pro, but a bigger screen and a better keyboard. you kinda sound like a hypocrite. i consider myself a pretty heavy data user, im constantly on the web. how often do we really come across a situation when you would need to use flash? honestly? plus im sure anyone HERE that does own an iphone would tell you that browsing on the iphone an bein directed to a different screen to watch a video doesnt take away from the experience at all.. if anything i got aggrivated trying to position the screen the way i wanted to with skyfire, not an issue on my iphone. but you mention flash like its a key point that kills the browser or something. some people dont even know what flash is, and what is the REAL benefit from having flash besides being able to view the video on the browser the way it would appear on your desktop? not really anything honestly, or at least not enough to shoot down safari. yeah its personal preference, but weigh out the pro's and con's fully. oh, fyi its not a sero plan, i used to work for sprint, it is an employee plan. you know orangekid, i think you have a comprehension problem, because i made it CLEAR that i understand people have their preferences and prefer things over apple. my point has never been that the iphone was better, ive been pointing out that there is no reason to hate the iphone when in a lot of cases it has things that we as windows users wish we could have, and microsoft could learn a lot from em. everything you said seriously has a flaw in it somehow, either on your perception on what i meant.. or what actually is the case with the iphone. the 3GS has a lot of major upgrades.. and considering how its only 199, you know.. the price that the 3G was last year?? (did you forget they dropped the price 100 dollars?) i dont understand your point at all? because the the mogul was 300 bucks for eons. to be honest, based off of what you've been saying in your responses.. i would have to just call you a hater man lol, because only a hater would say such things which doesnt really matter to begin with, but use it as the basis of their point, and then come off as a hypocrite at the same time in a way or two. i accept that you prolly wont ever like the iphone (its your prerogative), but i can let you know that you bring up a fairly weak argument when you try to justify your case on why its so "inferior". especially when it outsells the crap out of winmobile (isnt that ironic).

I don't think you understand that it's just a preference thing either you like it or you don't, I laid out why I didn't prefer it over winmo, I like it as a device just fine, just not my cup of tea. Calm down man, everything is going to be just fine. for what I need a smart phone to do, it is inferior to winmo. Obviously it suits you just fine, that's all good. Don't be just another winmo hater. Apple is an ok company they just work different and close everything off so its either their way or the highway, know what I mean.

It's all gravy baby.


edit: I also thanked ya for the stimulating conversation, you did bring up a few good points

[orangekid]

also I don't think you can get swype on the iphone

[blue4shizzle]

Originally Posted by orangekid

also I don't think you can get swype on the iphone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTooBnKAdSw

so during the youtube video around the 17 second mark i literally reached in my pocket, pulled out my iphone, opened up the notes and started texting what was already on the omnia screen.. strangely enough i finished at just about the same time considering how the demonstrator had a head start and i still corrected a few mistakes that i made.. i dont really consider myself a master "texter" considering i just got the phone a month an a half ago. the guy using the iphone was purposely texting a great deal slower because there is no way i should have been able to reach in my pocket, pull it out, and finish up the same time as the omnia user. not trying to down swype, but lets have a REAL comparison instead of trying to trick viewers into believing something that isnt true. i challenge you iphone users to do the same thing i did and i guarantee you will find the same thing i did. not to mention had i already known what i was going to type im positive id finish way before the swype.. but it is kool how he did that with only one finger (kudos.. but who really texts with one finger, i mean really?)

[CyberMonkey]

First swype is a personal preference, not all people will like it or want to use it, I for one don't see the need for it.
Second, the people who are totally against iPhone are usually people who never used one and/or people to just don't like Apple.
Third, people who are against WinMo are the same as the number 2 just never used one or just dead set hating Microsoft.
Fourth, anything one phone can do, there are ways to make the other phone do it, period.
Fifth, jailbreaking, flashing new ROMS: the point of either to make the device exactly how you want it. Is there a need for either? No, but do ALOT of people do it to make them better, obvisouly or there would not be TONS of info (even at this site) about the topics.
Sixth, people who say jailbreaking and flashing new ROM are pretty much the same, they pretty are. See some 5, they both are so make the devices better for the user.


In conclusion; both types of devices are good. If you don't like one then that is of your own choice.

Mods, can you just go ahead and shutdown this thread. Seems like it's full of people blindly stating they hate one device without giving some thought to it, just so they can say they "hate it".

[blue4shizzle]

Originally Posted by CyberMonkey

First swype is a personal preference, not all people will like it or want to use it, I for one don't see the need for it.
Second, the people who are totally against iPhone are usually people who never used one and/or people to just don't like Apple.
Third, people who are against WinMo are the same as the number 2 just never used one or just dead set hating Microsoft.
Fourth, anything one phone can do, there are ways to make the other phone do it, period.
Fifth, jailbreaking, flashing new ROMS: the point of either to make the device exactly how you want it. Is there a need for either? No, but do ALOT of people do it to make them better, obvisouly or there would not be TONS of info (even at this site) about the topics.
Sixth, people who say jailbreaking and flashing new ROM are pretty much the same, they pretty are. See some 5, they both are so make the devices better for the user.


In conclusion; both types of devices are good. If you don't like one then that is of your own choice.

Mods, can you just go ahead and shutdown this thread. Seems like it's full of people blindly stating they hate one device without giving some thought to it, just so they can say they "hate it".

this has been EXACTLY what ive been saying since my first post.. there really is no reason at all to hate the iphone, thats why i dont understand it, yeah you can prefer not to have one.. but what is the concept behind hating it? its a really good device that took cell phones to another level.

[CyberMonkey]

Originally Posted by blue4shizzle

this has been EXACTLY what ive been saying since my first post.. there really is no reason at all to hate the iphone, thats why i dont understand it, yeah you can prefer not to have one.. but what is the concept behind hating it? its a really good device that took cell phones to another level.

Me too. I mean if the iPhone had not come out, would there be as many touch screen phones out there? Would WinMo have been advanced from them as it is now? Most likely not.
Even if people do hate the iPhone for valid reason, they should at least thank Apple for making to ramp up the whole touch screen/smart phone craze.