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dsi76 05-04-2009 11:01 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CRACING (Post 895936)
Still got suck on 2nd splash screen in 21222 ROM. ](*,)

Used the XIP provided by drellisdee ( MSXIPKernelLTK and MSXIPKernel ).

BTW, some XIPs require you to include the WINCENLS folder in there.

dsi76 05-04-2009 11:02 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainabba (Post 895922)
What's it used for? What app/function?


Not sure, there is some discussion about it on XDA-Devs but I didn't bother to read it thoroughly.

CRACING 05-04-2009 11:05 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsi76 (Post 895951)
BTW, some XIPs require you to include the WINCENLS folder in there.

in ROM/XIP?

I have the WINCENLS in sys which is of wizard's

Is the WINCENLS specific to device or I can use the one came from source?

dsi76 05-04-2009 11:10 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CRACING (Post 895957)
in ROM/XIP?

I have the WINCENLS in sys which is of wizard's

Is the WINCENLS specific to device or I can use the one came from source?

WinCENLS is the same for all devices.

For my Diamond I used to have this:

ROM/XIP/MSXIPKernel
ROM/XIP/OEMXIPKernel
ROM/XIP/WinCENLS

On the Elf, you always just need ROM/XIP/MSXIPKernel and OEMXIPKernel, so it varies from device to device.

(After finding a modification in the boot.rgu of the Diamond's OEMXIPKernel, I just needed MSXIP and OEMXIP, and moved WinCENLS to SYS.)

CRACING 05-04-2009 11:15 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsi76 (Post 895965)
WinCENLS is the same for all devices.

For my Diamond I used to have this:

ROM/XIP/MSXIPKernel
ROM/XIP/OEMXIPKernel
ROM/XIP/WinCENLS

On the Elf, you always just need ROM/XIP/MSXIPKernel and OEMXIPKernel, so it varies from device to device.

(After finding a modification in the boot.rgu of the Diamond's OEMXIPKernel, I just needed MSXIP and OEMXIP, and moved WinCENLS to SYS.)

Ok, Everytime I place WinCENLS in sys which works fine in my wizard. However I will try my best :)

Thanks and regards

dsi76 05-04-2009 11:20 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CRACING (Post 895974)
Ok, Everytime I place WinCENLS in sys which works fine in my wizard. However I will try my best :)

Thanks and regards

Yeah you'll need WinCENLS either way, whether in XIP or SYS. Otherwise the ROM won't boot.

dodgexjeep2000 05-04-2009 11:21 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
can someone ost their touch pro rom folder for 21222 (sprint)

dodgexjeep2000 05-04-2009 11:40 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
dsi76, i keep getting an integer overflow error with your vga sys

dsi76 05-04-2009 11:51 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgexjeep2000 (Post 896035)
dsi76, i keep getting an integer overflow error with your vga sys

I used Platform Rebuilder which does not rely on .VM or .ROM

CRACING 05-05-2009 12:14 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
tried everything but still suck on 2nd splash screen. ](*,)

- Used the WinCENLS_WWE from the source.
- Placed the WinCENLS_WWE in ROM/XIP but kitchen crashes by saying "Doesn't fit
- Used bepe's xip dumper and xipporter.
- Tried working XIP ( 21215 ) and device boots fine, that means the SYS and OEM are ok.

I tried all my ways. :(

Edit: I got it, Used the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK from XIP of Vogue ported and it worked. But I cannot figureout why does the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK changes in different ported XIPs of same build. :drunken:

decibel 05-05-2009 01:09 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsi76 (Post 896061)
I used Platform Rebuilder which does not rely on .VM or .ROM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgexjeep2000 (Post 896035)
dsi76, i keep getting an integer overflow error with your vga sys

I have said many times, you need to be careful with PlatformBuilder and WMReloc. They hide errors/warnings of memory overlaps. An OVERFLOW is when the module can't fit in the memory alloc'd, so PlatformRebuilder and/or WMReloc will allow that two modules to share alloc's. This can be very bad. I would strongly recommend making your SYS pass a G'Reloc before building with PlatformBuilder. I have found this to greatly increase the stability of my ROMs.

dsi76 05-05-2009 01:55 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by decibel (Post 896200)
I have said many times, you need to be careful with PlatformBuilder and WMReloc. They hide errors/warnings of memory overlaps. An OVERFLOW is when the module can't fit in the memory alloc'd, so PlatformRebuilder and/or WMReloc will allow that two modules to share alloc's. This can be very bad. I would strongly recommend making your SYS pass a G'Reloc before building with PlatformBuilder. I have found this to greatly increase the stability of my ROMs.

I have never had a problem with Platform Rebuilder and the stability of my ROMs built with it (around 50 releases shared with the Elf community on xda to date, using this kitchen).

decibel 05-05-2009 02:02 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsi76 (Post 896270)
I have never had a problem with Platform Rebuilder and the stability of my ROMs built with it (around 50 releases shared with the Elf community on xda to date, using this kitchen).

Aye. But you are GSM. Are you using the native 6.5 kernel?

inertiax3 05-05-2009 03:29 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsi76 (Post 896270)
I have never had a problem with Platform Rebuilder and the stability of my ROMs built with it (around 50 releases shared with the Elf community on xda to date, using this kitchen).

dsi76, since PlatformRebuilder doesen't work on non-HTC devices, could you also please share the .ROM folder with your QVGA/VGA sources? Although I guess that the .ROM will be irrevelant once it has been p*a*s*s*e*d through PlatformRebuilder... Thank you

vickylife007 05-05-2009 05:52 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgexjeep2000 (Post 896035)
dsi76, i keep getting an integer overflow error with your vga sys

This should help anyone overcome integer overflow issues.
http://ppcgeeks.com/forum.ppcgeeks/s...postcount=1195

inertiax3 05-05-2009 06:43 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vickylife007 (Post 896414)
This should help anyone overcome integer overflow issues.
http://ppcgeeks.com/forum.ppcgeeks/s...postcount=1195

..or just use wmreloc..

qsqa 05-05-2009 06:56 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Or just replace your browsingie folder with attached one - should resolve most of problems with 21222 build :)

dsi76 05-05-2009 08:20 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inertiax3 (Post 896360)
dsi76, since PlatformRebuilder doesen't work on non-HTC devices, could you also please share the .ROM folder with your QVGA/VGA sources? Although I guess that the .ROM will be irrevelant once it has been p*a*s*s*e*d through PlatformRebuilder... Thank you

I don't think yesterday's CHS source came with the .VM and .ROM folders though ;)

dsi76 05-05-2009 08:22 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by decibel (Post 896281)
Aye. But you are GSM. Are you using the native 6.5 kernel?

What is the native 6.5 kernel? Oh, you mean nk.exe? I am still using the original nk.exe in my OEMXIP.

As far as I understand, there was a nk.exe from Da_G for the Raphael. I guess I could use this in my GSM Diamond but not port it to my Elf?

humrod 05-05-2009 10:01 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I want to share with this forum my base rom 6.5 21222 qvga for elf/elfin.
This is not a full terminated rom, is just a rom to work with. Full dumpeable in sys/oem/xip and working on my machine.

rapidshare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/229436552/Basic_rom_wwe.7z

da_reeseboy 05-05-2009 10:38 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Here is a good working 21222 VGA sys -http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmwdnfdmfm
I have it up and running on my diamond with no issues - opera is working, youtube is working, all running very smoothly. It also has a rom folder in there, but unless you're using a cdma diamond you'll need to delete that and make your own(not the .rom folder in sys, just the rom folder containing the os.nb.payload).

Sector 05-05-2009 10:38 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
does anyone having issues again in 21222 with 3rd party keyboards when there are cooked in? how to fix this, i remember i saw a version on 21215 which worked on this.

thank you

da_reeseboy 05-05-2009 10:39 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sector (Post 896698)
does anyone having issues again in 21222 with 3rd party keyboards when there are cooked in? how to fix this, i remember i saw a version on 21215 which worked on this.

thank you

I have fingerkeyboard cooked into mine with no issues.

Sector 05-05-2009 10:45 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
which SYS do u have? can i have the download link please?

your download link doesnt work upper.

Getitnowmarketing 05-05-2009 11:44 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sector (Post 896698)
does anyone having issues again in 21222 with 3rd party keyboards when there are cooked in? how to fix this, i remember i saw a version on 21215 which worked on this.

thank you

Replacing browsing, browsing core, and browsingie with the folders from 21215 fixed my keyboard sip issues.

Sector 05-05-2009 12:02 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 896825)
Replacing browsing, browsing core, and browsingie with the folders from 21215 fixed my keyboard sip issues.

thank you very much for the tip. i will try again now and let u know :)

SOHKis 05-05-2009 12:07 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by da_reeseboy (Post 896697)
Here is a good working 21222 VGA sys -http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmwdnfdmfm
I have it up and running on my diamond with no issues - opera is working, youtube is working, all running very smoothly. It also has a rom folder in there, but unless you're using a cdma diamond you'll need to delete that and make your own(not the .rom folder in sys, just the rom folder containing the os.nb.payload).

this sys is working GREAAAT for me also, thanks again da!

(savage25rcracer kb w/arrows works w/o issues for me)

Sector 05-05-2009 12:20 PM

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dude it works. thank you soooo much

savior02 05-05-2009 12:32 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by da_reeseboy (Post 896697)
Here is a good working 21222 VGA sys -http://www.mediafire.com/?mnmwdnfdmfm
I have it up and running on my diamond with no issues - opera is working, youtube is working, all running very smoothly. It also has a rom folder in there, but unless you're using a cdma diamond you'll need to delete that and make your own(not the .rom folder in sys, just the rom folder containing the os.nb.payload).




where can i get a os.nb.payload for cdma tp? can i use the same one from 21502 build? i really want to try this out

joojoobee666 05-05-2009 12:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
My SIP issue had to due with some provxml modifications I did to the carrier XML's. (So was my HTC Task Manager issues) Not sure exactly what part, but I downloaded a clean PPCK carrier and remodified the provxml's. But before putting them back, I ran them through OEMizer which has a provxml section. I must have butched the file format or something. I've now got a nice 21222 working without replacing the Browsing cores using the base I posted a few pages back.

krazy_about_technology 05-05-2009 01:35 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I too am having this SIP related problem :( But resolving it by replacing IE files from older build doesn't seems like a good idea to me. After all, in previous two releases, IE is heavily modified, its much faster. Anybody can suggest a different way. I am using QVGA sys shared by dsi76. I had problem with bluetooth too, there was no Connect via bluetooth option in Activesync, I resolved it by using btasplugin.dll from 21501 build. But I dont understand what is causing this problem. I have WinCE.nls in SYS folder too. What am i missing???

indagroove 05-05-2009 01:40 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 897083)
I too am having this SIP related problem :( But resolving it by replacing IE files from older build doesn't seems like a good idea to me. After all, in previous two releases, IE is heavily modified, its much faster. Anybody can suggest a different way. I am using QVGA sys shared by dsi76. I had problem with bluetooth too, there was no Connect via bluetooth option in Activesync, I resolved it by using btasplugin.dll from 21501 build. But I dont understand what is causing this problem. I have WinCE.nls in SYS folder too. What am i missing???

Try recmodding the dlls in the browsing folders that are posted here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zzmmdnm1jnz

krazy_about_technology 05-05-2009 01:48 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Thanks buddy, i am trying it now. Lets see :)

da_reeseboy 05-05-2009 01:59 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by savior02 (Post 896942)
where can i get a os.nb.payload for cdma tp? can i use the same one from 21502 build? i really want to try this out

If you post your TP os.nb.payload I can insert the 21222 xip into it so it will work with a 21222 sys.

qsqa 05-05-2009 02:12 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 897122)
Thanks buddy, i am trying it now. Lets see :)

or just use my browsingie folder HERE - it is from 21222 build

krazy_about_technology 05-05-2009 02:24 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Thanks for the help guys, i recmoded the files myself, phone is booting right now. It's so strange that IE is suddenly having so much influence over system areas like SMS and SIPs. Previously, it used be just a bunch of 4 packages sitting alone in the ROM nothing to do with anything else (at least it use to look like that). I have cooked almost 20-25 WM 6.1 ROMs and never did anything like this happened. The worst i got was completely missing a particular component in a build, or a simple missing registry entry problem, thats it. It seems like Windows Mobile is also going towards the same philosophy as desktop version. I dont feel its bad, if they workout IE as optimally as they can.

conflipper 05-05-2009 02:35 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
anyone test out the 21221 build yet? I will try and do compare of 21221 vs 21222 today and tomw. i will have to see i guess.

had to format HD and do a fresh install, so still getting everything right.

krazy_about_technology 05-05-2009 02:46 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Well the sip problem is solved but there is this new problem. IE is not starting up and i think for the same reason all the widgets are giving error in riahost.exe. What to do now?


EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the bowsui.dll. Everything is working fine now :)

I have this issue for so long in my mind, can anybody enlighten me what is the difference between a module and a file, when they are in the kitchen, as well as how they are treated inside a working ROM? What distinctions does the OS follows while handling these two formats? Any link to article on msdn or somewhere else is also a welcome way of help for me, i am not shy of reading big articles :) I enjoy that.

mettercomputers 05-05-2009 03:08 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Still not haveing any luck with 21222 or 21502 on my titan cannot get the xip right and have tried the ones posted here. Any help/advise thanked

SOHKis 05-05-2009 03:09 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
i haven't tried 21221 myself, but monkeybape is talking about them here if you can read/translate (better than google anyway) - http://bbs.xbeta.cn/thread-22520-1-1.html


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