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vickylife007 05-06-2009 12:35 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by bbsandkm (Post 899032)
sorry i dont post my work but i think i may this one time. unless you want to do it?
they have tplane and he is doing a wonderful job ( i think?)

logistic reasons? ok titan/xv6800 people check the titan upgrades section ill head thay way, ill post 21222 for you. thank all of these guys work because this would not be possible without them

ok titan people here is the thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...058#post899058

Thank you Bbsandkm, I will also visit that thread often to offer help in whatever way I can.

bbsandkm 05-06-2009 12:40 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by vickylife007 (Post 899078)
Thank you Bbsandkm, I will also visit that thread often to offer help in whatever way I can.

yes please
at least until the chefs come back (tplane,mr free,dcd and others)
your help will be much appreciated. ill thank you :)

corey1138 05-06-2009 12:46 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Is the PPCKitchen our only option for cooking with the titan? Can someone point me to a different kitchen that works with the titan? I noticed the first post has one for sprint only.

gguruusa 05-06-2009 02:04 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 899094)
Is the PPCKitchen our only option for cooking with the titan? Can someone point me to a different kitchen that works with the titan? I noticed the first post has one for sprint only.

There are lots of titan kitchens, ppck is just more current and full featured.

If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues, but if you want to be cutting edge it covers most of the devices (happy to add more, if someone wants to tell us how) with minimal manipulation needed. More importantly, it provides a standard platform/base you guys can use to help resolve/identify issues.

ebb 05-06-2009 02:47 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 899247)
There are lots of titan kitchens, ppck is just more current and full featured.

If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues....


Here's a vote in favor. Thanks gguru.

bbsandkm 05-06-2009 02:56 PM

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ppckitchen is the best thanks to gguruusa

vickylife007 05-06-2009 03:00 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 899094)
Is the PPCKitchen our only option for cooking with the titan? Can someone point me to a different kitchen that works with the titan? I noticed the first post has one for sprint only.

There are simpler tools for starters, for straight forward porting, cooking and flashing and you wouldn't have issues of any kind as long as the SYS you are working with hasn't gone through PPCK.

Yes PPCK is full featured and current, I have it downloaded. Still studying it, it covers almost everything. I still think it is not a chef's starting point.

vickylife007 05-06-2009 03:05 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by bbsandkm (Post 899362)
ppckitchen is the best thanks to gguruusa

Great! I have whom to run to if have any challenge with PPCK.

mettercomputers 05-06-2009 03:07 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 899247)
There are lots of titan kitchens, ppck is just more current and full featured.

If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues, but if you want to be cutting edge it covers most of the devices (happy to add more, if someone wants to tell us how) with minimal manipulation needed. More importantly, it provides a standard platform/base you guys can use to help resolve/identify issues.


would be very greatful hoping to somehow use lzx compression on my titan.
Just let us know

bbsandkm 05-06-2009 03:07 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vickylife007 (Post 899387)
Great! I have whom to run to if have any challenge with PPCK.

yep google

didnt your mom tell you no running allowed in the kitchen

corey1138 05-06-2009 03:18 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 899247)
There are lots of titan kitchens, ppck is just more current and full featured.

If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues, but if you want to be cutting edge it covers most of the devices (happy to add more, if someone wants to tell us how) with minimal manipulation needed. More importantly, it provides a standard platform/base you guys can use to help resolve/identify issues.

I would love to have access to these developer builds. I have really enjoyed flashing/modding over the years with winmo.

I noticed all the roms I build with PPCK seem to leak memory somewhere. I have talked to a few ppl in the IRC channel about it and really cant place my finger on it. I am no expert just wanted to have beter than 7-10meg after a few days. Honstly I dont put alot into my roms just what I need. I remember DCD's kitchen used to have lots of ram and would in general stay that way. Thats why I was askin about other kitchens. Seems not everyone on here uses PPCK. But dont get me wrong I love PPCK and use it alot! And I totaly agree abotu having a comon platform to build with.

Zecanilis 05-06-2009 03:19 PM

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Does anyone uses Lockscreen. Is it only mine, or it's a litle buggy?
-In a incoming call it appears sometimes the default bouble, instead of the lockscreen one.
-Sometimes the windows start icon appears, but i think it shouldn't.
-When i have an incoming message and i see after a while it doesn't show the lockscreen message slide

Do you have the same bugs?
I'm using 21222 QVGA here.
Cheers

gguruusa 05-06-2009 03:41 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vickylife007 (Post 899370)
There are simpler tools for starters, for straight forward porting, cooking and flashing and you wouldn't have issues of any kind as long as the SYS you are working with hasn't gone through PPCK.

PPCkitchen doesn't do porting. Only new Bepe kitchens do porting at this time. The porting tools used with old bepe kitchens are also useable with PPCkitchen.
Quote:

Yes PPCK is full featured and current, I have it downloaded. Still studying it, it covers almost everything. I still think it is not a chef's starting point.
For cooking, PPCkitchen is hands down the easiest and most straight forward. Frankly, there is not a simpler kitchen environment for cooking.

gguruusa 05-06-2009 03:49 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 899429)
I would love to have access to these developer builds. I have really enjoyed flashing/modding over the years with winmo.

I noticed all the roms I build with PPCK seem to leak memory somewhere. I have talked to a few ppl in the IRC channel about it and really cant place my finger on it. I am no expert just wanted to have beter than 7-10meg after a few days. Honstly I dont put alot into my roms just what I need. I remember DCD's kitchen used to have lots of ram and would in general stay that way. Thats why I was askin about other kitchens. Seems not everyone on here uses PPCK

Usually a misconception, and often a symptom of how you use Windows Mobile.

BTW, you can build roms made in old Bepe kitchens in PPCkitchen rather easily, if you really want to.

joojoobee666 05-06-2009 03:51 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 899247)
There are lots of titan kitchens, ppck is just more current and full featured.

If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues, but if you want to be cutting edge it covers most of the devices (happy to add more, if someone wants to tell us how) with minimal manipulation needed. More importantly, it provides a standard platform/base you guys can use to help resolve/identify issues.

I would be interested as well.

corey1138 05-06-2009 04:00 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 899508)
Usually a misconception, and often a symptom of how you use Windows Mobile.

BTW, you can build roms made in old Bepe kitchens in PPCkitchen rather easily, if you really want to.

Probably. I do use this titan for work and it syncs to exchange (email all day, calender reminders, tasks and contacts). My wife's phone does not sync to anything and seems to keep better memory. I also run palringo most of the day. I pop in and out of IE and opera and listen to music on my lunch.

When someone posts a sys its hard to tell if it is usable with PPCK (sometimes you dont know what they are building with). Is there a guide on how to prepare a sys for PPCK?

Mad Mike 05-06-2009 04:03 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
If you guys would like, we can provide access to some of the developer builds for PPCk. This stuff changes frequently, without notice, and may have issues, but if you want to be cutting edge it covers most of the devices (happy to add more, if someone wants to tell us how) with minimal manipulation needed. More importantly, it provides a standard platform/base you guys can use to help resolve/identify issues.[/quote]


I would love access as well. I use PPCk on a regular bases fine tuning my ROM's. I haven't found an easier kitchen to use.

krazy_about_technology 05-06-2009 05:36 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zecanilis (Post 899433)
Does anyone uses Lockscreen. Is it only mine, or it's a litle buggy?
-In a incoming call it appears sometimes the default bouble, instead of the lockscreen one.
-Sometimes the windows start icon appears, but i think it shouldn't.
-When i have an incoming message and i see after a while it doesn't show the lockscreen message slide

Do you have the same bugs?
I'm using 21222 QVGA here.
Cheers

Yes its happening with me too. Although i haven't encountered the first one, second and third do happen on my phone also. When i have a missed call alert and a message alert, the missed call one remains but the message alert disappears. Plus the start icon and taskbar icons are sometimes visible in the lockscreen.

Another thing that i have noticed in all previous builds is that GWES.exe uses a lot of memory as the phone is used. I generally dont keep things running in background (set my close button to really close in htc taskmanager) and I run hibernate.exe every now and then. Still the Free memory which is about 22 MB in the begining, goes down to 11 MB, even 8 some times. And at that time, hibernate.exe also doesn't helps much. The only way is to soft reset. The biggest consumers of memory in DotFred's task manager shows up as GWES.exe and Shell32.exe. Is this some kind of memory leak problem? Anywbody has some idea?

gguruusa 05-06-2009 05:45 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 899530)
Probably. I do use this titan for work and it syncs to exchange (email all day, calender reminders, tasks and contacts). My wife's phone does not sync to anything and seems to keep better memory. I also run palringo most of the day. I pop in and out of IE and opera and listen to music on my lunch.

When someone posts a sys its hard to tell if it is usable with PPCK (sometimes you dont know what they are building with). Is there a guide on how to prepare a sys for PPCK?

A sys by itself is readily useable in any kitchen, including ppck. Awhile back, I posted a quick and dirty selections.txt over on PPCkitchen.org for using drop-in sys/oem basekits, old bepe style. If you want to use mostly parts from ppck and sys/lang parts from some other basekit, you'll want to make a new buildbase, something like the files in projects/groups/buildbases.

Mad Mike 05-06-2009 06:04 PM

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It Worked! I was able to get PPCk to work and boot past the second screen for 21222.

Thanks to Vickylife007, bbsandkm, gguruusa, joojoobee666 and anryl for all your help and the files you supplied.:headbang:

vickylife007 05-06-2009 06:58 PM

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Hello Chefs, and Users,
Here is a black .tsk file. It's a combination of beauty and simplicity. I can't remember where I picked it from, but I just find out no matter the skin I use I eventually roll back to this. If you have a colored Titanium on it, you will just love it. See for yourself..................

Wizzard 05-06-2009 08:11 PM

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Gguruusa,

Is there something being built for the Apache in the PPCKitchen?

Are some of the files being produced here able to be inserted into PPCK without much ado?

Thanks for the info.

jtuite 05-06-2009 08:14 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mssmison (Post 899056)
could someone put together a 21222 rom for vogue? Id like to see if it still has the same bug with messaging and marking texts as read.

here is a 21222 ROM for Vogue just run your carrier cab. everything is working fine for me.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zhdwy0tdomi

( credit goes to Dan-HTC-Touch for the XIP and DSI76 for the SYS)

joojoobee666 05-06-2009 09:56 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mike (Post 899756)
It Worked! I was able to get PPCk to work and boot past the second screen for 21222.

Thanks to Vickylife007, bbsandkm, gguruusa, joojoobee666 and anryl for all your help and the files you supplied.:headbang:

Glad your up ;)

gguruusa 05-06-2009 10:17 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzard (Post 899946)
Is there something being built for the Apache in the PPCKitchen?

Are some of the files being produced here able to be inserted into PPCK without much ado?

All of them, of course.

Zecanilis 05-07-2009 07:14 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Does anyone now how can we disable the wm6.5 start menu to get the old one like wm6.1?

conflipper 05-07-2009 07:16 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by Zecanilis (Post 900701)
Does anyone now how can we disable the wm6.5 start menu to get the old one?

can not be done, i try this for about 2 days, and i could never get it back, if you dont add something, then you get no menu at all.

i have read somewhere about people taking out the startgrid.cpr files and then using quickmenu to make it work like they wanted, but that is about the only thing you can try.

focus-pl 05-07-2009 08:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anryl (Post 898897)
From all sources here i use this one on kaiser perfect working
included kaiser nk.exe fixed for gain RAM from 79 to 101 with files fixing issues

http://rapidshare.com/files/22961197...2SYSXIPFIX.ZIP

for PRB kitchen

Thanks! Can you (or someone) provide this xip as xip_out.bin (for Kaiser)? I'm asking because platform rebuilder doesn't work properly with 0415 lang and I have to use old ervius kitchen.. Thanks in advance ;)

gguruusa 05-07-2009 08:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anryl (Post 898897)
From all sources here i use this one on kaiser perfect working
included kaiser nk.exe fixed for gain RAM from 79 to 101 with files fixing issues

http://rapidshare.com/files/22961197...2SYSXIPFIX.ZIP

for PRB kitchen

Elaborate, please. What fix allowed RAM gain (I assume this is the EOM address change - how do you determine what to change)? What files fixed what issues?

joshkoss 05-07-2009 08:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zecanilis (Post 900701)
Does anyone now how can we disable the wm6.5 start menu to get the old one like wm6.1?


Run this and it will work.

AstainHellbring 05-07-2009 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joshkoss (Post 900758)
Run this and it will work.

What do you lose if you run this?

anryl 05-07-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 900731)
Elaborate, please. What fix allowed RAM gain (I assume this is the EOM address change - how do you determine what to change)? What files fixed what issues?

chavonbravo with cmonex made it available in polaris i adapted it to kaiser with BIG help off ervius =D>

with ida pro and nk.exe file(not module) u sure can find the right spot to hexedit (probably compatible only with older non3d devices)

the polaris thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459826

CRACING 05-07-2009 10:32 AM

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Has anybody faced eco voice problem while calling/talking?

The sound comes in eco. :drunken:

In WinMo 6.1 its fine so its not an hardware problem.

Zecanilis 05-07-2009 10:38 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conflipper (Post 900703)
can not be done, i try this for about 2 days, and i could never get it back, if you dont add something, then you get no menu at all.

i have read somewhere about people taking out the startgrid.cpr files and then using quickmenu to make it work like they wanted, but that is about the only thing you can try.

I'm trying to get a clean WM6.5 Rom with no titanium and stuff. Because for me, manila beats titanium...
Allready removed the themes and it's costumization, chome, lockscreen, bronze... I've tried removing start menu but with no success, so i putted back the start menu cpr files.
But now i think scroling is worst than before. It's not so good has before.
Do you know if any of this packages has scroling the improvment?

CRACING 05-07-2009 10:42 AM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zecanilis (Post 900893)
I'm trying to get a clean WM6.5 Rom with no titanium and stuff. Because for me, manila beats titanium...
Allready removed the themes and it's costumization, chome, lockscreen, bronze... I've tried removing start menu but with no success, so i putted back the start menu cpr files.
But now i think scroling is worst than before. It's not so good has before.
Do you know if any of this packages has scroling the improvment?

Are you using TouchFlo Scroll? If not, it might help or if yes, try changing TouchFlo Scroll settings in advance config.

Zecanilis 05-07-2009 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CRACING (Post 900898)
Are you using TouchFlo Scroll? If not, it might help or if yes, try changing TouchFlo Scroll settings in advance config.

yes i'm using touchflo.
The only stange thing is that this appened after i remove these packages i said before.
I've been trying to see in all rgu and provxml of them, if there is something related to scroling or to touch and i couldn't find anything...

jakdillard 05-07-2009 12:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conflipper (Post 900703)
can not be done, i try this for about 2 days, and i could never get it back, if you dont add something, then you get no menu at all.

i have read somewhere about people taking out the startgrid.cpr files and then using quickmenu to make it work like they wanted, but that is about the only thing you can try.

replace shell32.exe from a 2104x SYS

joshkoss 05-07-2009 01:33 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AstainHellbring (Post 900799)
What do you lose if you run this?

mapp them to a key and give it a try. you'll see the old start and settings menu.

conflipper 05-07-2009 02:13 PM

Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 901114)
replace shell32.exe from a 2104x SYS

doing this will really effect the SYS itself. adding a 6.1 shell on a 6.5 OS.

you might get the features back for now, but it will have troulbes later. best advice i can give someone is live with the new startgrid.

it is going to be the way of the future.

Zecanilis 05-07-2009 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by conflipper (Post 901359)
doing this will really effect the SYS itself. adding a 6.1 shell on a 6.5 OS.

you might get the features back for now, but it will have troulbes later. best advice i can give someone is live with the new startgrid.

it is going to be the way of the future.

Yes i think you are right about that.
Now i've made a theme inspired in empex diamond and added the menus, boubles,etc (all except tasbar and softkeybar) like the blue WM6.5 theme, and scroling got better again.
I was trying to clean these kind off stuff to see if i could improved free Ram, but the differences aren't so much has i thought.
So i have to live with 22 MB of free RAM after a soft reset, but with a better touch interface... :D


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