Stuck in TITAN bootloader? Read this!

[mattsm]

Might want to post this in the vogue section, not this titan section.
I don't know anything about the vogue to help you with.

[jfaerr]

sorry about that, I posted in here because this thread has been referenced in other forums. apparently the problem with the vogue and titan in this case are similar in nature?

in the case of a titan, what would you suggest doing?

[puff]

Originally Posted by jfaerr

Hey guys. I have searched quite a bit on this particular problem, but have only thus far found a few bandaid solutions.

Basically, when I power-cycle/reset my Vogue (WM 6.1 when the problem started happening), it only seems to want to boot into the bootloader screen. My radio is up to date at 3.42.50 and I am currently using NFSAN's latest WM6.5 build with CoKe 2.31 bootloader. I can use my phone/data connection/GPS normally when I finally do gain access.


Bandaid solution one involves pulling out my battery, plugging in the charger cord, waiting 20 min, pulling out the charger cord, putting battery back in, powering on. This will get me out of bootloader mode, but next time I power-cycle/reset, im back into bootloader mode. Very hit or miss as it doesn't always work.

Bandaid solution two involves using ImCoKeMaN's titan_exitbl.rar uni_exitbootloader program. Ive read this entire thread, and I did make sure I was disabling ActiveSync/Mobile Device Center. Only seems to work on a specific XP machine (of two I have tried it on, and never worked on my Vista machine). Again, this will get me out of bootloader, but next time I power-cycle/reset, im back into bootloader mode. Works almost every try. Sometimes it takes two or three tries, unplugging and plugging the USB cable each time.


I would just say screw it and use the above methods to keep my phone working, but if im out on the road and I get stuck in bootloader mode, I would be in trouble. Plus, it just wouldn't be very stylish to have to tether a Windows XP box to my waist just restart my phone properly each time lol.


Anyways, I have tried flashing back to the latest stock Bell ROM and the problem has persisted.

I have flashed NFSAN's latest WM6.5 build onto my phone twice using ImCoKeMaN's 2.31.CoKe Unlocker to unclock the phone twice, and the problem has persisted.


Is it possible to change a value in the device's registry, or something such as that, to incorporate ImCoKeMaN's exitbootloader?? Is there some other file I could modify to ensure it restarts normally unless I soft-reset it into the bootloader on purpose? I am at my wits end on this one guys. Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance guys!

let me preface my advise with this tidbit:

to exit 'stuck in bootloader' you can also try just flashing a rom from the storage card. there are several threads dedicated to 'flashing from card' and its also my preferred method of rom flashing.

1) change radio
2) flash back to stock shipped exe
3) lock/unlock
4) downgrade to non-gps and then upgrade back (read disclaimer)

disclaimer: this advise is just what i would do. if following my advise should lead to the bricking of your device then i will not accept responsibilty.

i know you said u flashed stock, but there's stock dumps and then there's stock shipped roms... so make sure its a shipped rom. if swappin to another radio (which i also suggest flashing from card) nor restoring to stock shipped rom fixes, then perhaps your bootloader is corrupted? idk if thats even possible but if you relock after flashing stock then your phone should be 100% factory!

i have added #4 since i dont know offhand if complete restoral requires downgrade for your carrier. if there is not a gps shipped stock rom then downgrade is required. otherwise it would be retained as yet one more step you could try.

my answer would be the same for 6800 or 6900 (only the files would obviously be different)

[jfaerr]

Originally Posted by puff

let me preface my advise with this tidbit:

to exit 'stuck in bootloader' you can also try just flashing a rom from the storage card. there are several threads dedicated to 'flashing from card' and its also my preferred method of rom flashing.

1) change radio
2) flash back to stock shipped exe
3) lock/unlock
4) downgrade to non-gps and then upgrade back (read disclaimer)

disclaimer: this advise is just what i would do. if following my advise should lead to the bricking of your device then i will not accept responsibilty.

i know you said u flashed stock, but there's stock dumps and then there's stock shipped roms... so make sure its a shipped rom. if swappin to another radio (which i also suggest flashing from card) nor restoring to stock shipped rom fixes, then perhaps your bootloader is corrupted? idk if thats even possible but if you relock after flashing stock then your phone should be 100% factory!

i have added #4 since i dont know offhand if complete restoral requires downgrade for your carrier. if there is not a gps shipped stock rom then downgrade is required. otherwise it would be retained as yet one more step you could try.

my answer would be the same for 6800 or 6900 (only the files would obviously be different)

Thank you very much for the reply!

to exit 'stuck in bootloader' you can also try just flashing a rom from the storage card.
This is what I did on my last flashing of WM6.5, which is currently running on my phone. Renaming the .nbh file to, in the case of my phone, VOGUIMG.NBH on a 512mb card, etc. etc.

i know you said u flashed stock, but there's stock dumps and then there's stock shipped roms... so make sure its a shipped rom.
I flashed the stock Bell rom from the HTC website.

One thing I did not do is relock my phone after flashing the stock Bell ROM. I just flashed into stock, did my fix for getting past the bootloader, and then flashed WM6.5 via the RUU supplied by NFSAN. After that I then proceded to try flashing WM6.5 via the card method. All using CoKe 2.31 bootloader.

Would it be a waste of time to reflash back to stock, relock, unlock, and reflash back to WM6.5 again? I am assuming there is no way to correct the bootloader without reflashing?

[jfaerr]

Strangely enough, the problem seems to have corrected itself... I am now able to reset properly, and I really didn't do anything different, other than not shutting it down for the past day or so.

I am certainly confused, but ill take what I can get I guess.


Thanks for the help anyways puff! Hopefully things won't change in the next little while.

[puff]

Originally Posted by jfaerr

Thank you very much for the reply!

No problem. That's what this site is all about, we are all here to help each other.

One thing to keep in mind, sometimes people don't reply simply because they don't have the answer your looking for...

Originally Posted by jfaerr

Would it be a waste of time to reflash back to stock, relock, unlock, and reflash back to WM6.5 again? I am assuming there is no way to correct the bootloader without reflashing?

If your experiencing an issue that no one else can duplicate or help you resolve, then it would not be a waste of time to completely restore back to factory settings as that is what you would need to do anyway in order to get it exchanged or repaired...

Originally Posted by jfaerr

Strangely enough, the problem seems to have corrected itself...

hmm ok.... well that is strange... but at least it's working for ya...

Originally Posted by jfaerr

Thanks for the help anyways puff! Hopefully things won't change in the next little while.

Again, no problem...

[webs05]

My problems with my HTC Sprint Mogul have been increasing over the last week. For over a year now I have successfully used two Mattsm Custom ROMs, 21xxx (can't quite remember) and 21887. Just a week ago I did a battery pull on my phone as it started freezing on me and it immediately went into the bootloader. Mind you this is without any action from me besides a battery pull. I did not try to load a new ROM, Radio ROM, or bootloader, just a battery pull I swear!

Things I have tried:

• Titan Exit bootloader exe. I turned off the USB connection in Activsync and killed the processes, but this did not work for me. I even tried rebooting the computer, but no luck. The exit bootloader stated things were sent to the phone successfully. Which I think is true as the phone appears to reboot, but goes right back into the bootloader.
• Uploading a new Custom ROM. I tried putting another Mattsm based ROM, 23540 which worked. I got the phone out of the bootloader (which it immediately went into after finished flashing) through some random process of battery pulls, plugging in and unplugging phone from source, and exit bootloader. But this only lasted a day until after two reboots it went back to the bootloader.
• I then tried putting the 21887 ROM on the phone which again I could get working following the items from above, but again after a few reboots the phone just went back to the bootloader.
• Combination of battery pulls, plugging in and unplugging, and exit bootloader with mSD card ejected and loaded.

So after trying all the above and trying another custom ROM, I'm back to the bootloader. My phone just doesn't seem to want to boot. It really really likes the bootloader for some reason. Does anyone have any ideas? I really want to use this phone so I don't have to go back to my crappy Palm. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Phone details:
HTC Mogul Sprint
spl-2.40.Olipro
Radio 3.45
21887 Mattsm (last ROM I tried to flash that ended successfully but stuck in bootloader)

[mattsm]

Well you definately have some kinda issue.
I am not sure exactly what needs to be done in this situation.
But I would try some things at this point.

Flash back to stock http://www.htc.com/us/support/mogul-sprint/downloads/
which it contains the 3.42.02 radio. So that will give you a rom and radio rom flash.

If after this you still have your issue, try and flash bootloader again.

I have not seen anything like this before, therefore I am giving suggestions here.

I can tell you that one time I dropped my phone and the battery fell out. Result was a phone stuck in bootloader.
So naturaly I reflash rom, all was good from there on out.

[webs05]

So I tried to flash a stock ROM. It is the latest one from HTCs website. Still in bootloader. Not sure if I did things correctly though. With the phone in bootloader I ran the EXE. Everything went just fine but the phone ended up back in the bootloader. I still can't get it out trying the same things as I did above. I'm guessing the phone is probably toast...

[shaggylive]

Originally Posted by slypher

For those looking for a really easy way to kill active sync, i attached an exe that i found in an old 6600 ROM which will disable activesync so that you can run the exit bootloader app.

-s

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